Black Box

February 27, 2026

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🎙️ The Voices & The Context

The Format: This is a classic RadioLab episode—a narrative-driven, philosophical exploration that feels like a casual, curious conversation between hosts and experts. It's part science lesson, part mystery story, and part magic show.
The Key Players:
- The Hosts: Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich, the original RadioLab duo. Their chemistry is electric—Jad is the earnest, wide-eyed questioner, while Robert is the slightly more skeptical, playful foil. They banter, interrupt, and build on each other's excitement.
- The Guests: A cast of fascinating characters: Patrick Purdon (anesthesiologist), Carl Zimmer (science writer), Jesse Cox (Australian producer and grandson of mind-readers), and Martha Weiss (biologist).
The Vibe: Educational, Mysterious, and Deeply Entertaining. The episode masterfully balances the awe of scientific discovery with the pure, childlike wonder of a good magic trick.

🗝️ Key Themes & Topics

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What you'll learn

1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: Lulu Miller & The "Black Box" Theme**
2 (02:04) **Black Box #1: The Mystery of Anesthesia**
3 (26:29) **Black Box #2: The Mystery of the Piddingtons**
4 (55:56) **Black Box #3: The Mystery of the Chrysalis**

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Show Notes

In this episode, first aired in 2014, we examine three very different kinds of black boxes—spaces where we know what’s going in, we know what’s coming out, but can’t see what happens in-between.

From the darkest parts of metamorphosis to a sixty-year-old secret among magicians, and the nature of consciousness itself, we shine some light on three questions. But for each, we contend with an answerless space, leaving just enough room for the mystery and magic, always wondering what’s inside the Black Box.

EPISODE CREDITS:
Reported by Tim Howard and Molly Webster
Produced by Tim Howard and Molly Webster

EPISODE CITATIONS:
Radio Show: ABC's Keep Them Guessing (https://tinyurl.com/9r9zmftr)

LATERAL CUTS:
Last year we shared a story on our feed about butterfly researcher Dr. Martha Weiss, and how she befriended a little boy on the other side of the world who wanted to do his own caterpillar memory study.

Martha’s daughter Annie Rosenthal captured the whole adventure on tape and produced a gorgeous audio feature, “Caterpillar Roadshow,” which was first published in the audio magazine Signal Hill.

You can find it on our feed (https://zpr.io/xPdAYXFUMr4s)
–or on Signal Hill’s website. (https://zpr.io/a4bjPKeXJQWK)

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