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The IPO Frenzy Has Begun — ft. Howard Marks

June 12, 2026

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The IPO Frenzy Has Begun — ft. Howard Marks

Howard Marks has spent decades watching investors convince themselves that "this time it's different." Now, with SpaceX expected to complete the largest IPO in history, Anthropic and OpenAI filing to go public, and hyperscalers competing for investor capital, Marks sees the pattern repeating. But he refuses to call it a bubble definitively. "The question is, is today's exuberance irrational?" he asks. "Number one, I don't think anybody can definitively say so."

The Unknowable Frontier

Marks's central argument is that AI represents something genuinely new in the history of technological innovation — not because it's more powerful than railroads, radio, computers, or the internet, but because it's less specifiable. With railroads, investors knew they carried goods and people from point to point. With radio, they understood it transmitted messages. With AI, nobody can answer the basic questions: What will it be able to do, when, for whom, and how much profit will it produce?

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (02:44) **Introducing Howard Marks** - Co-founder of Oaktree Capital Management joins to discuss the upcoming wave of massive IPOs (SpaceX, Anthropic, OpenAI) and frothy market conditions.
  • 2 (03:27) **Is This Irrational Exuberance?** - Marks reframes the question around AI’s fundamental unknowability.
  • 3 (06:23) **Historical Bubbles vs. Today’s AI** - Marks compares the current AI boom to past technological bubbles (railroads, radio, internet).
  • 4 (11:07) **The Investor’s Dilemma** - The host asks how an investor actually deals with this level of uncertainty.
  • 5 (17:31) **The Death of the Moat** - Marks explains how disruption has made traditional value investing harder.
  • 6 (25:58) **Where to Invest Amidst the Chaos** - The host pushes Marks for his actual investment thesis given he must deploy capital.
  • 7 (28:53) **Reading the Valuation Indicators** - The host asks which indicators Marks finds most useful.

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Show Notes

Ed Elson and Scott Galloway are joined by Howard Marks to discuss whether the IPOs from SpaceX, Anthropic and OpenAI are legitimate investments or signs of irrational exuberance. They explore how investors should think about the enormous uncertainty of AI, where opportunities still exist in an increasingly expensive market, and whether fears about private credit are overblown or warranted. 

Howard Marks is the co-founder and co-chairman of Oaktree Capital Management.

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