392: Patrick Clancy on 60 Minutes, Gen-Z’s Interview Accessory + Taylor in Her Office Building Era

September 23, 2026

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Pop Apologists: Patrick Clancy, Gen-Z Interview Habits, and Taylor Swift's New Era

The episode opens with the hosts, Lauren and Chandler, reacting to the Patrick Clancy 60 Minutes interview that aired over the weekend. Clancy is the Massachusetts father whose wife, Lindsay Clancy, allegedly killed their three children in 2023 while experiencing postpartum psychosis. The interview, particularly an extended version released online, left both hosts visibly shaken. Chandler noted that she watched the original broadcast and then the extended cut, and found the color grading and emotional impact markedly different. "I felt like the color grading was different on the extended version," she said, adding that Clancy's eyes visibly welled up when he described the four days he spent with his infant son, Callan, in the hospital after learning the baby had a heartbeat but would not survive.

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What you'll learn

1 (01:06) **Opening Banter & Personal Updates** - The hosts chat about intrusive thoughts, burial vs. cremation preferences, and the idea of returning to the earth.
2 (09:23) **Upcoming Interview & Taylor Swift's "Patient Zero"** - The hosts announce an interview with Aaron Liche and react to Taylor Swift's new single announcement.
3 (14:45) **Taylor Swift at the Game & Ring Moment** - Discussion of Taylor Swift's animated reactions at a Chiefs game, including her "That's fucking bullshit" outburst and pointing to her ring.
4 (22:29) **Patrick Clancy on 60 Minutes** - Deep dive into the extended 60 Minutes interview with Patrick Clancy, father who lost his children.
5 (36:02) **Gen-Z's Interview Ice Coffee Debate** - A viral TikTok debate over whether bringing an iced coffee to a job interview is unprofessional.
6 (48:08) **Listener Email: Pro-War Childhood Essays** - A listener named Rachel shares a childhood essay supporting the Iraq War, mirroring Chandler's own letter to George W. Bush.
7 (55:00) **Listener DM: Dating Matthew Rhys** - A listener shares a DM about dating actor Matthew Rhys in 2008, calling him a "great kisser" and "wonderful man."

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Guests on this episode

Patrick Clancy

Show Notes

We unpack Taylor Swift's surprise 'Patient Zero' announcement and her viral ring moment at the game. Plus, the Patrick Clancy 60 Minutes interview, a jaw-dropping DM about dating Matthew Rhys, and a Hailey Glassman revelation that changes everything. Including but not limited to: the iced coffee job interview debate, a ten-year-old's pro-war essay, Kylie Jenner's Italian dream home, and Kris Jenner's three phones.
(00:07:58) 📧 Erin Lichy Questions Callout — call for listener questions ahead of Erin Lichy interview on Thursday
(00:08:43) 🎵 Taylor Swift's New Single — 'Patient Zero' and its confusing gray visual direction
(00:13:17) 💍 Taylor at Travis' Game — Taylor's rambunctious sideline reactions and 'that's my husband' ring moment
(00:17:54) 😢 Patrick Clancy Speaks — Patrick Clancy's 60 Minutes interview and the truther conspiracy debate
(00:31:35) ☕ Iced Coffee Interview Debate — whether bringing an iced coffee to a job interview reads as unprofessional
(00:41:19) ✉️ Bush War Letters Nostalgia — listener's childhood pro-Iraq-war essay and Chan's George W. Bush letter
(00:48:13) 💌 Matthew Rhys Crush and DM — DM from a woman who dated Matthew Rhys after Sienna Miller
(00:54:17) 😬 Hailey Glassman Trolling — Hailey Glassman's years of troll DMs to Claudia Oshry resurface
(01:01:06) 👋 TFP Leaves SLOMW — Taylor Frankie Paul announces she's leaving Mormon Wives
(01:03:04) 🏛️ Kylie Jenner's House Tour — Kylie Jenner's restored Italian villa and Saint-Tropez private jet vlog
(01:11:11) 🎁 Gift Card Winners — gift card winners and a tip about the Charles Spencer book event
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