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5 min readThere's no business like dough business
A listener named Jed Cronfeld noticed something odd in the Atlantic Avenue–Barclays Center station in Brooklyn: three Wetzel's Pretzels locations within a minute's walk of each other. One in the mall above the station, two more inside the subway terminal itself, each about the size of a broom closet. Jed wanted to know why they were there, whether they competed with each other, and whether any of them actually turned a profit. The answer, it turns out, reveals something about how impulse products work, how franchisees think, and how a bad lease can force a business to get creative.
The logic of impulse
John Fisher, until recently the head of development for Wetzel's Pretzels, explained the company's core strategy with a mantra: "Wherever there's people, there should be pretzels." The key insight is that pretzels are an impulse product, not a destination product. Nobody wakes up thinking, "I need a pretzel today." People buy pretzels because they smell them, see them, and decide on a whim. So Wetzel's places its stores in high-traffic, high-visibility areas — malls, transit hubs, stadiums — and then adds more stores along the same route to create repeated exposure. "I'm capturing people at different places in different times within their route," Fisher explained, "or I'm even exposing them to the thought and the smell of one place
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: Alex Goldman (Hyperfixed)**
- 2 (05:14) **The Mystery of the Three Pretzel Shops**
- 3 (07:25) **The Impulse Product Business Model**
- 4 (10:21) **Why Clustering Doesn't Cannibalize Sales**
- 5 (13:52) **The Franchisee's Story: Ricky Alam**
- 6 (19:57) **The Economics of a Pretzel Cluster**
- 7 (23:38) **Surviving the Pandemic with a Cluster Strategy**
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Show Notes
Today’s show is one such example. Our pals at Hyperfixed got a knotty question we just had to help them untangle: Why are there so many Wetzel’s Pretzels so close to one another at the Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center Station?
To find out, Alexi Horowitz-Ghazi followed the dough all the way to the top. His journey led him to a jolly pretzel executive, a franchisee with a deep-fried American dream, and a brush with mall security.
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This episode was hosted by Alex Goldman and Alexi Horowitz-Ghazi. Hyperfixed is produced and edited by Emma Courtland, Amor Yates, Sari Soffer Sukenik and Tori Dominguez Peak. The music is by the mysterious Breakmaster Cylinder and Alex Goldman. It was engineered by Tony Williams. Fact checking by Naomi Barr. The Planet Money version was produced by Sam Yellowhorse Kesler and edited by Jess Jiang. It was engineered by Robert Rodriguez. Alex Goldmark is Planet Money’s executive producer.
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