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5 min read🎙️ The Speakers & Context
- The Format: Host-led narrative with interviews and team meetings.
- The Key Players:
- Hosts: Kenny Malone and Erica Barris (Planet Money reporters), driving the project with econ-journalist skepticism on gut-driven decisions.
- Guests: Jamie Wolansky (game consultant, big-box retail expert who pioneered Catan at Target); Exploding Kittens team (co-founder Alan Lee, art lead Stephanie Pesta, international head Yuri Hosta)—proven hit-makers (e.g., Throw Throw Burrito) targeting mass retail.
- The Vibe: Playful chaos, blending econ rigor with creative whimsy—nervous excitement over high-stakes retail pivots.
🎣 The Executive Hook
- The "One Big Idea": In mass-market consumer products like board games, naming and theming trump mechanics—you have 3 feet and 3 seconds on the shelf to hook impulse buyers (millennial women for game nights/gifts). Instinctual, earworm appeal beats data-driven prototypes, turning a niche econ concept ("Market for Lemons") into a viral Trojan horse for big-box retail.
- Why It Matters: Mirrors broader retail Darwinism amid e-commerce dominance—physical shelf wars demand nostalgia-fueled, culturally resonant packaging to capture 20% international sales and hit Christmas timelines (lock by July for next year).
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **Yahtzee Origin Story & Project Recap**
- 2 (03:44) **The Stakes of Naming for Big Box Retail**
- 3 (06:49) **Exploding Kittens Brainstorm Meeting**
- 4 (13:42) **Gut Feel vs. Data in Theming**
- 5 (14:33) **🎙️ Interview: Jamie Wolansky (Game Consultant)**
- 6 (18:44) **Settling on "Sell Me a Sasquatch"**
- 7 (23:10) **International Market Hurdle**
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Show Notes
Planet Money has teamed up with the company Exploding Kittens to make a board game inspired by the legendary economics paper The Market for Lemons. We’ve decided we want a mass-appeal party game that quietly sneaks in the economics, so that we can report from inside a world that no other Planet Money project has entered: the real shelves at real big box retail stores.
We have a great game mechanic and a set of rules. Now all we need is a good name and theme.
Turns out, that is way harder and way higher stakes than any of us could have imagined.
In the third episode of our series, we learn the importance of a good game name and theme and try to come up with one for our game.
Find our previous episodes in the board game series, here and here.
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We have a great game mechanic and a set of rules. Now all we need is a good name and theme.
Turns out, that is way harder and way higher stakes than any of us could have imagined.
In the third episode of our series, we learn the importance of a good game name and theme and try to come up with one for our game.
Find our previous episodes in the board game series, here and here.
Pre-order the Planet Money book and get a free gift. / Subscribe to Planet Money+
Listen free: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the NPR app or anywhere you get podcasts.
Facebook / Instagram / TikTok / Our weekly Newsletter.
This episode of Planet Money was hosted by Kenny Malone and Erika Beras. It was produced by James Sneed and edited by Marianne McCune, fact-checked by Willa Rubin, and engineered by Cena Loffredo and Kwesi Lee. Alex Goldmark is our executive producer.
See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.
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