Destroying Sedevecantist TikToks Jacob Phillips | Last Call Ep. 24

July 23, 2026

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The man in the car, seatbelt still on, is making pronouncements he considers more solemn and theologically binding than anything the Pope of Rome could say from the Chair of St. Peter. That image, offered by theologian Dr. Jacob Phillips, captures the core absurdity he sees in sedevacantism — the belief that the papal seat has been vacant since the Second Vatican Council, and that every pope since has been an impostor. In this episode of Pints With Aquinas, Phillips dismantles the sedevacantist position not by attacking its sincerity, but by showing why it is an intellectually and spiritually ruinous shortcut.

What sedevacantism actually claims

Phillips, who admits he was himself a sedevacantist for a few weeks after Pope Francis died and Pope Leo was elected, defines the position clearly: sedevacantists hold that the papal throne is empty because the men occupying it since Vatican II have not been bona fide popes. Unlike earlier controversies in church history — the three-pope crisis, or disputes over particular heretical teachings — this is a wholesale rejection of the entire papacy as an institution. The claim is not that a particular pope taught error on a specific point, but that the office itself has been in a kind of Babylonian captivity since the 1960s.

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What you'll learn

1 (01:17) **Defining Sedevacantism** - Jacob Phillips explains what sedevacantism is and why it has become an attractive option for some Catholics
2 (06:17) **The Despair of Sedevacantism** - Phillips connects sedevacantism to the sin of despair and outlines its hopeless endgame
3 (08:41) **The "Home Aloner" Pipeline** - The conversation explores the logical endpoint of the sedevacantist trajectory
4 (11:05) **Responding to the First TikTok: The Death Penalty** - Phillips analyzes a TikTok claiming Pope Leo proved the papacy is vacant by contradicting earlier popes on capital punishment
5 (18:18) **Responding to the Second TikTok: The Burden of Proof** - Phillips addresses a sedevacantist who claims to hold all dogmas but rejects the "men" who hold the office
6 (25:33) **Responding to the Third TikTok: The "Imposter Church" Claim** - Phillips dismantles the argument that Vatican II created a false church and that arguing against sedevacantism proves its validity
7 (30:35) **Responding to the Fourth TikTok: Loving the Pope in Theory** - Phillips addresses a TikToker who claims to love the Pope and believe in papal infallibility, but only in the abstract

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Show Notes

Dr. Jacob Phillips is back to dismantle sedevacantist TikTok arguments, explaining why the belief that the papal seat is vacant since Vatican II is not only theologically incoherent but spiritually ruinous.

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