“Gonna Be CHAOS!” Xi Jinping Meets Trump + Netanyahu vs Mamdani | With Jeffrey Sachs

September 23, 2026

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The UN General Assembly in New York this week produced a moment that stunned even seasoned diplomats: a U.S. president stood at the podium and told the world he had a "big decision to make" — whether to make a deal with Iran or "annihilate the Islamic Republic" and "drive them into hell." Professor Jeffrey Sachs, an international relations expert and senior UN official, called it "a most bizarre moment" and said the mood in New York was still in shock.

The Trump-Iran Ultimatum and Its Fallout

Sachs described Trump's language as unprecedented for the General Assembly. "Never before at the podium of the General Assembly has certainly not a U.S. president or anyone else said we're going to annihilate another country or it's a choice that I'm going to make." The Iranian president responded by discarding his prepared speech to declare that Iran would never surrender. Sachs argued this reflects a deeper problem: the U.S. mentality of "winning" rather than coexisting. "If we aim at winning, we're going to blow up things," he said.

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1 (00:00) **Opening: Trump’s UN Threat to Iran** - The episode opens with a montage of Trump’s threat to “annihilate” Iran and Netanyahu’s attack on NYC Mayor Mamdani, setting the stage for a divided UN General Assembly.
2 (02:21) **Sachs: Trump’s UN Speech Was a “Bizarre Moment”** - Sachs describes the unprecedented nature of a US president threatening annihilation from the UN podium, and the global isolation this creates.
3 (04:51) **The China Question: Is US Dominance Over?** - Piers challenges Sachs on his pro-China stance, asking if he is “bigging up China” while talking down America.
4 (07:44) **Defending China Against Charges of Imperialism** - Piers presses Sachs on China’s treatment of Uyghur Muslims and its growing global influence, asking if its intentions are benign.
5 (11:16) **The First Island Chain and the Roots of Tension** - Sachs explains a historical US strategy to contain China, which he sees as the core driver of current tensions.
6 (12:44) **Panel Introduced: The Mamdani-Netanyahu Arrest Drama** - Piers turns to his panel, starting with activist Nerdeen Kiswani, to discuss the failure to arrest Netanyahu in New York.
7 (15:10) **False Equivalency or Selective Justice?** - Piers asks Kiswani if she feels the same about arresting the Iranian president for war crimes, leading to a heated debate.

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Show Notes

New York City is awash with VIP visitors this week as world leaders gather for the UN General Assembly - but two men in particular are commanding global attention. One is skipping the UN to receive a red-carpet welcome from President Donald Trump, while the other faces threats of arrest the moment he lands.

China’s Xi Jinping receives full state visit honors ahead of high-stakes talks with Trump on everything from the AI war to the future of Taiwan. Meanwhile, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu lands under fire as NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani calls for his arrest under an ICC war crimes warrant.

Netanyahu has rerouted to New Jersey - and in an explosive pre-speech video, he’s firing back.

Piers Morgan speaks to Jeffrey Sachs before speaking to his panel; foreign policy expert and former US deputy assistant secretary of state Joel Rubin, geopolitical analyst and self-styled ‘China insider’ Cyrus Jansen, poltiical analyst Gordon Chang and US-Palestinian activist Nerdeen Kiswani.

(00:00:00) Introduction

(00:02:00) Jeffrey Sachs

(00:07:45) The rise of China and economic imperialism

(00:12:49) Mamdani’s calls for Netanyahu’s arrest

(00:18:35) Donald Trump at the UNGA threatening to wipe out Iran

(00:23:06) Netanyahu and Trump facing crucial elections

(00:24:45) A shift in power from America to China

(00:29:38) Gordon Chang addresses Trump criticism

(00:31:13) What will happen in the U.S. midterm elections?

(00:33:15) What will happen when AI begins to think for itself?

(00:36:46) Netanyahu to speak in New York against backdrop of Haaretz report

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