Tony Robbins: The Next 36 Months Will Change Everything | PBD Podcast #860

September 22, 2026

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Tony Robbins and his investment partner Christopher Zook spent two hours on the PBD Podcast laying out a stark forecast: the next 36 months will bring more disruption than most people expect, driven by AGI, quantum computing, and robotics. But the episode was not a doom loop. Robbins and Zook spent most of the time explaining a specific investing framework—the "Holy Grail of Investing"—that they argue can protect and grow wealth through whatever comes. The conversation ranged from macro debt warnings to micro advice on choosing a spouse, but the core was a practical, psychology-grounded argument for why most people's portfolios are built wrong and what to do about it.

The Holy Grail: Eight to Twelve Uncorrelated Bets

The central investing concept of the episode came from Ray Dalio, whom Robbins interviewed for his book Money: Master the Game. Dalio told Robbins that after 15 years of thinking about it, he could state the single most important investing principle: "If you can find eight to twelve uncorrelated investments that you believe in, you reduce your risk by 80% and increase your upside." Robbins later heard Dalio give the exact same answer at a JP Morgan conference for billionaires, where "every head in the room looks down and writes this down."

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What you'll learn

1 (00:01) **The 36-Month Warning: AGI, Quantum, and Robotics** - Tony opens with a stark forecast: the next three years will bring AGI, quantum breakthroughs, and a robotics revolution that will make labor as cheap and invisible as electricity.
2 (03:18) **Buy, Sell, Hold Game: Gold, Bitcoin, Single-Family Homes** - Tony and Christopher play a rapid-fire game on major asset classes, but Tony insists the answers depend on individual outcomes and asset allocation.
3 (09:17) **How Tony Met Christopher Zook: The Origin Story** - Tony recounts how his frustration after the 2008 financial crisis led him to interview 50 top investors and eventually partner with Christopher Zook to democratize access to private equity.
4 (18:24) **The Holy Grail of Investing: 8-12 Uncorrelated Assets** - Tony and Christopher explain Ray Dalio's core principle: owning 8-12 uncorrelated investments reduces risk by 80% while increasing upside.
5 (25:48) **Why Sports Teams Are a Legal Monopoly** - Tony breaks down the business case for owning professional sports teams, using Peter Gruber's purchase of the Dodgers as a case study.
6 (31:03) **Energy, Data Centers, and the AI War** - Tony pivots to energy, explaining how AI's insatiable demand for power is creating a massive investment opportunity in fossil fuels and nuclear.
7 (33:31) **The Information Age Is Dead: Drowning in Information, Starving for Wisdom** - Tony critiques modern media and social media, arguing their job is to startle, not inform, and that most people are making decisions based on manipulated narratives.

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Tony Robbins

Show Notes

Patrick Bet-David sits down with Tony Robbins to discuss the forces reshaping the next decade. Robbins breaks down AI, robotics, jobs, investing, debt, and economic risk, while sharing lessons on fear, resilience, relationships, and building a fulfilling life during a period of historic global change.

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