Nightmare Explorers - UFO Panel with Katie Paige and Jessiy Hawthorne

October 10, 2026

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On a recent investigation at a Colorado ranch, the power went out from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. "It was darker than dark," investigator Katie Paige recalls. "I was like, if something's gonna come down, now's the time — but it didn't." The K2 and trifield meters did spike simultaneously, but Paige found herself frustrated by the familiar problem: she couldn't establish who or what she was communicating with. "It's really hard to establish that, okay, make it go this way for yes and this way for no and who am I talking to," she says. This tension — between getting evidence and not knowing what it means — runs through the entire conversation between Paige, fellow investigator Jessiy Hawthorne, and host Matt.

The Problem of Identification

Both investigators describe a recurring difficulty: they can detect something, but identifying it proves elusive. Hawthorne recounts a CE5 (Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind) event near a forest preserve with Bigfoot legends. Using a spirit wave app, she kept receiving the word "Faye." When a friend happened to have apple cider donuts, the device said "give donut." "How does it even know that we have donuts?" Hawthorne asks. "We could have anything under the sun."

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What you'll learn

1 (00:39) **Welcome & Guest Introductions** - Host Matt welcomes back Katie Paige and Jessiy Hawthorne for a free-ranging paranormal and UFO discussion.
2 (05:40) **Jessiy’s Paranormal Methodology & Psychic Validation** - Jessiy describes how she distinguishes her own energy from external signals, and shares a powerful validation story from the Woodstock Opera House.
3 (10:19) **Encountering a Child Spirit & Releasing It** - A detailed account of sensing a young girl’s spirit in her suburban neighborhood, leading to a successful release.
4 (12:53) **Astral Projection & Arcturian Contact** - Jessiy recounts a sleep paralysis experience that turned into an astral encounter with a blue-skinned being named Kokari.
5 (15:43) **Shared Synchronicities & The Blue Being Connection** - Katie and Jessiy discover they have nearly identical experiences with blue extraterrestrial beings and trauma-related themes.
6 (17:52) **Vehicle Anomalies & Electromagnetic Phenomena** - Katie reports recent strange activity with cars and key fobs near the ranch, sparking a discussion about possible causes.
7 (21:52) **Protection Methods & Discernment** - Jessiy explains how she protects herself from negative entities, drawing on her traumatic childhood on an Indian burial ground.

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Guests on this episode

Katie Paige Jessiy Hawthorne

Show Notes

Join Jesse Hawthorne, Katie Paige and Matt Willis for a fascinating discussion of paranormal investigations, spirit communication, Atlantis, Lemuria, extraterrestrials, portals and Bigfoot. The team shares personal experiences, explores mysterious UFO sightings and electromagnetic phenomena, and discusses Katie’s research into the alleged Roswell alien body recovered in Denver. What lies behind these unexplained encounters? Watch and decide for yourself!

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