OSBonus: Oops All Sword of the Sea (feat. Austin Wintory & Matt Nava)
September 10, 2025
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5 min readIn the first area of Sword of the Sea, Matt Nava struggled to design the lava. It kept looking like pizza. "You realize like lava and like a lasagna, they look identical," he says. The glow is what makes lava read as lava—and getting that wrong means the player sees a delicious Italian meal instead of a dangerous molten surface. That kind of perceptual puzzle runs through the entire game, from frozen waves that had to stop moving to feel like ice to golden collectibles that risked looking like "piss" without the right luster.
Matt Nava (creative director at Giant Squid) and Austin Wintory (composer) joined the Overly Sarcastic Podcast to discuss their fourth collaboration, Sword of the Sea. The conversation spanned the game's movement-first design philosophy, the musical challenge of avoiding cliché, and the hidden craft behind making a world that feels both coherent and surprising.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:37) **Introductions & Guests** - Blue and Red welcome Matt Nava (creative director, Giant Squid) and Austin Wintory (composer) to discuss *Sword of the Sea*
- 2 (03:06) **Creative Philosophy & Collaborative Process** - How the team defines the “why” behind each game and the iterative music-art feedback loop
- 3 (06:55) **Shared Artistic Goals** - Austin explains why he resonates with Matt’s vision; avoiding a “war between nature and civilization”
- 4 (09:38) **Musical Challenges: Electronics & Piano** - Austin’s struggle to blend synthesizers with an otherworldly, non-cyberpunk tone
- 5 (13:57) **Movement as Core Mechanic** - The consistent through-line across all Giant Squid games: making movement tactilely satisfying
- 6 (16:46) **No Combat, Just Dress-Up & Exploration** - Subverting the “sword” trope; the joy of collecting and secrets
- 7 (18:43) **World Design & Environmental Variety** - Designing landscapes that feel fresh and shocking at every turn
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Show Notes
Grab your magic swords and surf the audio-waves as we talk with developers and composers Matt Nava and Austin Wintory from the Sword of the Sea team about their latest foray into atmospheric video game making!
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Where to play Sword of the Sea:
https://swordoftheseagame.com
Giant Squid: https://giantsquidstudios.com
Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2453160/Sword_of_the_Sea
PS5: https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/sword-of-the-sea
Epic Games: https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/sword-of-the-sea-385364
Socials: https://linktr.ee/giantsquidstudios
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/awintory
Instagram: @a.wintory
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