Ologies with Alie Ward
Ologies with Alie Ward

Meteorology (WEATHER & CLIMATE) Encore with Marshall Shepherd

September 9, 2026

AI Summary

5 min read

Dr. Marshall Shepherd, a research meteorologist and former NASA scientist, has spent his career studying the hows and whys of weather, not just forecasting it. In this conversation, he clears up the difference between weather and climate, explains what forecast probabilities actually mean, and walks through the physics behind storms, snow, heat, and humidity. He also addresses common misconceptions, the limits of prediction, and why a warmer atmosphere can make snowstorms worse.

Weather vs. climate, and why snow doesn’t disprove warming

Shepherd uses a simple analogy: “Weather is your mood and climate is your personality.” A single cold day or snowstorm tells you nothing about long-term climate trends, just as a bad mood doesn’t define a person’s character. He fields this confusion regularly—someone will tweet him about shoveling snow and ask what happened to global warming. His response is that it’s winter in Boston; snow is expected. The real issue is that a warmer atmosphere holds more water vapor, about 4% more per degree Fahrenheit, thanks to a principle called the Clausius-Clapeyron relation. That extra moisture feeds all kinds of storms, including snowstorms. So a warming climate can actually produce heavier snowfalls, not fewer.

How forecasts work, and what 30% chance of rain really means

Continue reading the full summary in the app — free to try.

Read Full Summary →

Free • No credit card required

What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:00) **Episode Introduction & Host Rambling** - Alie Ward introduces the episode from a hotel room, explains this is an encore episode, and teases a fresh 2026 update on El Niño.
  • 2 (02:58) **Guest Introduction: Dr. Marshall Shepherd** - Alie introduces Dr. Shepherd, detailing his extensive credentials and explaining the difference between a meteorologist and a "weather person."
  • 3 (11:12) **Key Definitions: Hurricanes, Typhoons, Cyclones** - Dr. Shepherd clarifies the global naming conventions for the same type of storm.
  • 4 (13:12) **Weather vs. Climate: The Core Distinction** - Dr. Shepherd explains the fundamental difference between weather and climate, a common source of public confusion.
  • 5 (15:22) **The "Weather Geek" Mindset & Forecasting Accuracy** - Dr. Shepherd discusses the public's perception of meteorologists and the actual accuracy of weather forecasts.
  • 6 (17:21) **How Weather Science Has Changed** - Dr. Shepherd outlines the major advancements in meteorology, from computing power to social sciences.
  • 7 (20:24) **Defining Scary Weather Terms: Bomb Cyclones & Polar Vortex** - Alie asks about "bomb cyclones" and "polar vortex," terms that have recently entered the public lexicon.

+ Full timestamped outline available in the app

Show Notes

Bomb cyclones! Polar vortices! Atmospheric rivers! And rained out barbecues. One of the world’s leading Meteorologists, Dr. Marshall Shepherd – a former NASA scientist and current Professor of Geography and Atmospheric Sciences at the University of Georgia – is here to field a downpour of questions. We chat about percentages in forecasts, hail, sleet, storm chasing, heatwaves, fluid dynamics, TV weather people, climate change delayism and his favorite weather-themed movies. Also: what not to do with a weather balloon. 

Follow Dr. Shepherd on Bluesky, Instagram or TikTok

His website: www.drmarshallshepherd.com

His podcast: Weather Geeks

A donation went to: Institute for Sustainable Communities at sustain.org

More episode sources and links

Other episodes you may enjoy: Tempestology (HURRICANES), Fulminology (LIGHTNING), Nephology (CLOUDS), Snow Hydrology (SNOW/AVALANCHES), Cryoseismology (ICEQUAKES), Astrobiology (ALIENS), Oceanology (OCEANS), Phenology (FALL/SEASONS), Spesh Ep: Drawdown Design Project

400+ Ologies episodes sorted by topic

Smologies (short, classroom-safe) episodes

Sponsors of Ologies

Transcripts and bleeped episodes

Ologies with Alie Ward