Ologies with Alie Ward
Ologies with Alie Ward

Extreme Meteorology (EL NIÑO) with Marshall Shepherd

September 16, 2026

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5 min read

The 2026–2027 El Niño is not just another warm phase in a natural climate cycle. It is already, months before its typical winter peak, matching or surpassing the strongest El Niño events on record—1982–83 and 2015–16—and ocean temperatures are running two to three degrees Celsius above normal in the central Pacific, with subsurface water as much as eight degrees warmer. Dr. Marshall Shepherd, a distinguished professor of atmospheric sciences at the University of Georgia and former NASA satellite mission scientist, puts it plainly: this could be the strongest El Niño that any living human has ever seen. And it is unfolding on top of a planet that is already warmer because of greenhouse gas emissions. As Shepherd says, El Niño is “an additional steroid on top of that warming.”

What El Niño Actually Is—and Why It Matters Everywhere

El Niño is the warm phase of the El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO), a naturally recurring climate pattern in the Pacific Ocean. Every two to seven years, the trade winds weaken or reverse, allowing warm water from the western Pacific to slosh eastward. That shuts off the cold, nutrient-rich upwelling along the South American coast—Peruvian fishermen noticed it around Christmas centuries ago, which is how it got its name. The opposite phase, La Niña, was not formally recognized until the 1990s.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:00) **Introduction & Episode Setup** - Alie Ward introduces the episode, which was originally planned as a bonus but expanded into a full release, and sets up the guest's credentials.
  • 2 (04:55) **Clarifying the UN Climate Report's "Strategic Retreat"** - Alie corrects a widely misreported headline about the UN's stance on climate change mitigation.
  • 3 (07:56) **Dr. Shepherd's Reaction to the UN Report** - Marshall Shepherd discusses how the meteorological community views the UN's updated climate stance.
  • 4 (12:00) **Living Through Climate Change: The Shift from Future to Present** - Shepherd argues that climate change is no longer a future threat but a present reality.
  • 5 (16:35) **What is El Niño? The Basic Mechanism** - Dr. Shepherd explains the fundamental science of El Niño and its counterpart, La Niña.
  • 6 (19:04) **Global Impacts of El Niño** - Shepherd details how El Niño affects weather patterns across the planet.
  • 7 (22:09) **The Dolly Parton Connection and Puerto Rico** - The episode touches on the ironic and beneficial path of Tropical Storm Dolly.

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Show Notes

El Niño. La Niña.  United Nations Environment Programme doomerism? It’s been a helluva week for Meteorologists and the humans who live on planet Earth, so we made you a fresh episode recorded just days ago with our favorite climate scientist, professor, author, and Weather Geeks podcast host, Dr. Marshall Shepherd.

What is going on with this hurricane season? How do Pacific waters affect you all over the globe, what’s behind the headlines of the UN’s “strategic retreat” on climate change mitigation, how have El Niño weather patterns changed over time, what’s dust from Africa got to do with it, should you quit your job and start a roofing company?

And if you’re like: dude I don't know if I can handle weather gloom: I implore you to listen so you know the flim-flam, how to read these climate articles in the news, what to tell friends and family who otherwise might not care, and how you can instigate change and keep yourself safe. 

Visit Dr. Shepherd’s website and follow him on Instagram, TikTok, and Bluesky

Listen to his podcast Weather Geeks 

A donation went to the Institute for Sustainable Communities 

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