Ologies with Alie Ward
Ologies with Alie Ward

BONUS EPISODE Creating Music with Jarrett Sleeper and David Bashwiner

June 28, 2026

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In a bonus episode of Ologies, host Alie Ward hands the microphone to her partner, musician and composer Jarrett Sleeper, to interview biomusicologist Dr. David Bashwiner. What follows is a raw, wide-ranging conversation that dives into the neural mechanics of creativity, the physics of sound that connects all vertebrates, and why the feeling of music "coming from somewhere else" is not just mystical poetry but a describable brain state.

The Neural Feedback Loop of Creation and the Default Mode Network

Jarrett opens with a question many creators recognize: the experience of inspiration as a kind of channeling, where good ideas feel like they arrive from outside the self rather than being willed into existence. Dr. Bashwiner confirms this is a real phenomenon, rooted in the brain's default mode network (DMN). First identified in the early 2000s by researchers like Marcus Raichle, the DMN is more active when a person is at rest—staring at a crosshair on a screen—than when performing a focused task. In popular culture, the DMN has been somewhat warped into a catch-all for "mind-wandering," but its relationship to creativity is more specific. Studies by researchers like Rex Young show that when people engage in divergent thinking (e.g., "list all the things you could do with a cactus"), those who perform better show more DMN activity. The DMN is deeply connected to memory,

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (03:41) **Meet the Guests & Why This Bonus Episode Exists** - Alie introduces Jarrett Sleeper as a guest co-host and explains this is a companion piece to the biomusicology episode.
  • 2 (05:04) **The Feeling of Inspiration: Channeling vs. Forcing** - Jarrett asks whether the experience of creativity feeling like it comes from "somewhere else" is studied in neuroscience.
  • 3 (07:47) **Can We Make Truly New Sounds?** - Jarrett wonders if all music is just iteration on old ideas, given we've invented so many instruments.
  • 4 (10:57) **Synthesizers: The 3D Printer of Sound** - The conversation deepens on how synthesis creates genuinely novel sonic possibilities.
  • 5 (12:20) **The Problem of "New" in Music Education** - A critique of academic music culture that devalues anything that has been done before.
  • 6 (14:56) **Insecurity vs. Technical Overload: Two Creative Blocks** - Jarrett describes a common dilemma: people with little technique feel their work is derivative, while highly skilled technicians can't access their personal voice.
  • 7 (15:48) **The Role of Drugs in Creativity (and Hearing)** - A discussion on how substances alter the creative feedback loop.

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Guests on this episode

Show Notes

The promised follow up bonus episode to our biomusicology episode with theoretical, neuro- and biomusicologist Dr David Bashwiner. This one is guest hosted by Podmother Jarrett Sleeper and we steer the discussion more toward the process of creating music, where creativity comes from, the relationship between theory, technique, and creativity, how to unleash or access one’s own creativity, synthesizers, whether new sounds are possible, emulation vs simulation, music as it exists in nature, whether or not animals use instruments, why we know the instinctively the difference between purring and growling, and perhaps a bit about the effects of drugs on mixing?

Visit Dr. Bashwiner’s website and follow him on Google Scholar

You can find Jarrett on Instagram and Bandcamp

A donation went to Gaza Hand of Salvation Initiative

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