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5 min read“We’re Bound and Determined to Spend”
Richmond Fed president Tom Barkin sat down with Odd Lots at Jackson Hole to give his read on an economy that keeps surprising everyone—including the Fed. The conversation ranged from the mechanics of consumer resilience to data-center politics, tariff pass-through, and the limits of forward guidance.
The Creative Consumer
The single most striking feature of the current economy is that consumers keep spending even as prices stay elevated and uncertainty lingers. Barkin offered a granular explanation. Coming out of the Great Recession, households were scarred—lost jobs, lost houses, depleted savings. That produced years of secular stagnation. Coming out of COVID, the opposite happened: stimulus checks, unspent money, rising home equity, and rising stock portfolios created a mindset of “I’m bound and determined to spend.”
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What you'll learn
- 1 (03:57) **Economy is “Solid” but Inflation is “Not in the Right Place”** - Barkin agrees with Warsh’s assessment of a strong economy but stresses inflation is not yet at target.
- 2 (05:23) **Why Consumers Keep Spending: The “Creative Consumer” Thesis** - Barkin explains the surprising resilience of consumer spending through a detailed, on-the-ground framework.
- 3 (08:11) **The AI Construction Boom is Crowding Out Other Building** - Barkin assesses how the massive data center build-out is creating shortages and driving up costs for other construction sectors.
- 4 (09:44) **AI’s Biggest Impact So Far is Political, Not Productive** - Barkin reports that the most notable effect of AI is the local political debate it creates, not a broad productivity boom.
- 5 (11:44) **Housing: A “Highly Likely” Future Tightness** - Barkin warns that the current softness in housing construction will likely lead to a future shortage and price pressures.
- 6 (13:29) **Is a “New Normal” More Inflationary?** - Barkin questions whether the current environment of persistent shocks is the new normal, contrasting it with the disinflationary 2010s.
- 7 (17:04) **The Forward Guidance Paradox: Transparency vs. Getting Trapped** - Barkin holds two opposing thoughts on Fed communication, endorsing a review of tools like the dot plot.
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Show Notes
The implications of Fed Chair Kevin Warsh's Jackson Hole speech are pretty clear: Traders expect a rate hike given the hawkish hints littered in his address, largely focused on inflation. There are still a number of open questions and Warsh's lack of forward guidance does not exactly lend clarity to how the Fed will act in the coming months. Today, we recap the speech — in a conversation recorded from the Lodge at Jackson Hole — with Richmond Federal Reserve Bank President Tom Barkin and he explains why his thinking around the Fed's communication policy is changing, and he gets into what is still useful about things like the dot plot. He also tells us what he's hearing at Chamber of Commerce meetings about the impact of AI on local communities, how businesses are using their tariff refund checks, and whether the Fed will have to start paying attention to the economic effects of data center politicization.
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