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5 min read🎙️ The Voices & The Context
- The Format: Casual interview podcast with hosts bantering on market mechanics before diving into a deep discussion with an expert guest.
- The Key Players:
- Hosts: Joe Weisenthal and Tracy Alloway – Bloomberg journalists with sharp chemistry, blending curiosity about trading "black boxes" with witty asides on HFT absurdities.
- Guest: Donald MacKenzie, Sociology Professor at University of Edinburgh; author of Trading at the Speed of Light, An Engine, Not a Camera, and works on finance tech, HFT, digital ads, and now AI – a "polymath" who embeds in tech worlds via interviews and site visits.
- The Vibe: Educational yet fun and geeky – intense dives into nanosecond trades mixed with laughs over Wall Street culture shifts and speed-race absurdities.
🗝️ Key Themes & Topics
The episode unpacks the hidden infrastructure of modern trading, from electronic order books to HFT's speed obsession, questioning if faster = better markets.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: Donald MacKenzie**
- 2 (06:03) **MacKenzie's Life Work and Sociological Approach**
- 3 (10:31) **HFT Firm Culture and Aesthetics**
- 4 (12:59) **The Rise of Island ECN and HFT Origins**
- 5 (18:06) **Trading Speeds: Milliseconds to Nanoseconds**
- 6 (19:35) **Equity Trade Execution Process**
- 7 (23:23) **Why Banks Lag in HFT**
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Show Notes
The average person can enter a stock trade on their computer, hit refresh, and the trade is done. As fast as that seems, there are professional traders moving even faster, executing thousands of trades per second. Over the years, the need for speed got so intense that competing firms would aim to get their own systems closer and closer to the exchange's computers, so as to minimize the length of the wires and get their trades in even faster. How did this happen? And how does this change the nature of trading itself? On this episode, we speak with Donald Mackenzie, a professor of sociology at the University of Edinburgh in Scotland. Professor Mackenzie has been studying the intersection of finance and tech for a long time, and in 2021 wrote the book, Trading at the Speed of Light. We discuss the history of finance technology and look at where the technological arms race is going next.
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