Monetary Matters with Jack Farley
Monetary Matters with Jack Farley

Mum’s The Word: Kathryn Rooney Vera on Fed’s Second Meeting under Kevin Warsh, Plus Earnings Breakdown (Live Replay)

July 29, 2026

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“A genuinely disciplined Fed and sustained rise in real yields could weaken that case,” Kathryn Rooney Vera said of gold, but she wasn’t betting on it. The chief market strategist at Stone X Group had just been proven right: the Federal Reserve, under Chair Kevin Warsh, held rates steady at its second meeting despite the market pricing in a 30% chance of a hike. The real story, she argued, was not the decision itself but what it revealed about a Fed that is deliberately saying less—and what that silence means for investors.

The Fed’s new communication regime

Rooney Vera explained that Warsh’s Fed is moving away from the crisis-era playbook of constant hand-holding. “Once the market stops talking about the Fed, that’s where he declares victory,” she said, recalling Warsh’s stated goal of returning to a laissez-faire central bank. The press conference revealed very little, and the market reaction was telling: the two-year Treasury yield dropped (pricing in fewer hikes), while the 30-year yield rose sharply (pricing in higher long-term inflation). This steepening of the curve, she argued, reflects a loss of inflation-fighting credibility. “If the Fed is not going to fight inflation, why do I own a 30-year Treasury?” she asked. Her key insight: the risk premium is moving out of Fed statements and into the yield curve itself. This means more uncertainty around each meeting,

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:02) **Catherine Rooney Vera Joins & Fed Meeting Recap** - Chief Market Strategist at Stone X discusses her correct call that the Fed would not hike.
  • 2 (01:52) **Market Reaction: Curve Steepening & Credibility Concerns** - The long end of the bond market sold off while the short end rallied, signaling doubt about the Fed's commitment to fighting inflation.
  • 3 (03:32) **The New Fed: Less Guidance, More Uncertainty** - Warsh's goal is a "laissez-faire Fed" that stops holding the market's hand, moving risk from Fed statements into the yield curve.
  • 4 (04:45) **Investment Implications: Positioning for a Quieter Fed** - The risk premium moves from Fed-speak into the curve itself, requiring a new playbook for investors.
  • 5 (06:41) **Productivity as the Key Variable** - The shape of the curve and the Fed's path hinge on whether AI-driven productivity gains materialize.
  • 6 (08:21) **Rate Hike Outlook: One Hike This Year** - Rooney Vera expects one hike in December, with more possible in 2027 if the economy remains resilient.
  • 7 (09:17) **Warsh's Strategy & Political Considerations** - The host asks if Warsh wants the market to price in hikes so he doesn't have to deliver them, but Rooney Vera dismisses political motivations.

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Show Notes

In this episode, Jack sits down with Kathryn Rooney Vera, Chief Market Strategist at StoneX Group, to unpack the Federal Reserve's decision to hold interest rates and Chair Warsh's transition toward a quieter, laissez-faire communication style. Kathryn shares her macroeconomic outlook, forecasting that we may still see rate hikes post-election unless widespread AI adoption delivers a significant productivity boost to offset inflation.


Later in the show, Jack is joined by Max Wiethe for a live, unfiltered reaction to the latest mega-cap tech earnings from Microsoft and Meta. They analyze Microsoft's massive revenue and 43% Azure cloud growth, weighing these strong figures against the company's aggressive $41 billion in quarterly capital expenditures. Jack then bluntly breaks down Meta's quarterly results, labeling it a "disaster" due to a 55% surge in costs, an 8% drop in operating income, and unexpectedly weak forward guidance. Finally, the duo wraps up with a look at the semiconductor space, assessing how these fluctuating AI investments are directly impacting chip and equipment stocks like Arm Holdings and Lam Research.


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