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5 min readComedian Leslie Jones told Mick Unplugged that she hates the phrase "fake it till you make it" more than almost anything. "You don't fake nothing. Just make it," she said. "When you fake it, you're trying to have experiences without the experience." That single line captures the organizing argument of the conversation: the only path to real success in comedy—or in life—is to stop lying to yourself, do the work, and walk through the fire rather than around it.
The cost of lying to yourself
Jones described a kind of internal split that happens when people pretend to be something they are not. "There's a whole personality of yourself sitting on a bench watching you be something else," she said. "And it's just so sad. Because it's hard to continue a lie." The truth, she argued, is "rugged and raw," but it ultimately frees you because you can say, "It's me and it's the truth."
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:08) **The Cost of Living a Lie** - Jones opens with a raw reflection on the pain of pretending to be someone else.
- 2 (00:48) **Host's Introduction of Leslie Jones** - Mick establishes Jones's credentials and personal admiration.
- 3 (03:56) **Walking Through Fire: The Necessity of Struggle** - Jones explains why you can't skip the hard parts of life.
- 4 (05:38) **The Internal Switch: Only You Can Flip It** - Jones reveals the hardest but most essential personal work.
- 5 (08:14) **The Lies We Tell Ourselves Daily** - Jones diagnoses the self-deception that keeps people stuck.
- 6 (11:44) **Why the Truth Matters More Than Ever** - Jones explains the core philosophy behind her comedy.
- 7 (13:49) **Building Without a Foundation** - Jones uses parables to critique shortcuts in craft and life.
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Show Notes
Don't apologize for who you are... because you were made that way for a reason.
Comedian Leslie Jones, renowned for her groundbreaking work on Saturday Night Live, shares how embracing her authentic self propelled her career. This episode delivers valuable insights on personal branding and navigating the entertainment industry with conviction.
WHAT YOU'LL LEARN
- 3 key mindsets for creative success
- Why Hollywood resilience is essential
- 5 strategies for maintaining authenticity
- How comedy connects 2 different worlds
- Building a personal brand foundation
QUOTES THAT HIT
"You have to stay true to who you are, because that’s what makes you unique." - Leslie Jones
"The biggest lesson SNL taught me was how to trust my own voice." - Leslie Jones
"Failure isn't the end, it's just a different way to get where you need to be." - Leslie Jones
CHAPTERS
00:00 Leslie Jones' Path to SNL
07:15 The Art of Stand-Up Comedy
15:30 Authenticity in Entertainment
22:45 Navigating Hollywood Challenges
30:00 Leslie's Creative Process
38:10 The FCKRY Podcast Journey
45:00 Future Vision for Black Women
52:00 Leslie Shares Closing Thoughts
QUESTIONS THIS EPISODE ANSWERS
Q: How does Leslie Jones maintain authenticity in her career?
A: Leslie Jones emphasizes staying true to herself by not apologizing for her unique perspective and embracing the qualities that set her apart, believing this authenticity is what resonates with audiences.
Q: What key lesson did Leslie Jones learn from Saturday Night Live?
A: She learned the importance of trusting her own voice and comedic instincts, which allowed her to develop and deliver material that truly reflected her personality and experiences.
Q: Why is resilience crucial for success in the entertainment industry?
A: Leslie Jones explains that resilience is vital because the industry involves numerous rejections and setbacks, and the ability to persist through these challenges is what ultimately leads to breakthroughs and sustained success.
Connect & Discover Leslie Jones:
Facebook: @Lesdoggg
Instagram: @lesdogggg
Website: justleslie.com
X: @Lesdoggg
YouTube: @lesdogggg
TikTok: @lesdoggggg
Book: Leslie F*ck
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