UFO Military Files Matched What Psychics Have Been Channeling | Dr. Helané Wahbeh

September 17, 2026

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When the Science of Channeling Meets the UAP Files

Dr. Helané Wahbeh, Director of Research at the Institute of Noetic Sciences, has spent her career studying phenomena that most academic institutions won't touch. She holds an ND, two postdoctoral research fellowships, a master's in clinical research, and was funded by the NIH to study meditation with combat veterans. "Science is actually a verb," she says. "It's a process. It's not a dogma. And so you can apply the scientific process to any research question."

Her research program on channeling—defined broadly as receiving information from beyond the conventional senses—has produced findings that challenge the materialist worldview from multiple angles. The most provocative: when she compared channeled material claiming extraterrestrial sources against a million pages of military UAP documents, the two datasets showed remarkable semantic alignment.

Channeling Is Far More Common Than People Admit

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What you'll learn

1 (00:00) **Study Design & The UAP Connection** - Dr. Helané Wahbeh introduces a study comparing channeled ET content to military UAP documents.
2 (02:49) **Part 2 Introduction & The Prevalence of Channeling** - The hosts welcome back Dr. Wahbeh and establish that channeling is far more common than people realize.
3 (04:11) **Rigorous Science for "Forbidden" Questions** - Dr. Wahbeh explains how she applies the scientific method to topics often dismissed by materialist science.
4 (17:02) **The Telepathy Study with Emotionally Bonded Pairs** - Dr. Wahbeh details a recent study on telepathic communication between close partners.
5 (20:23) **Debunking the "Telepathy is Debunked" Myth** - Dr. Wahbeh directly addresses the common skeptical argument that telepathy has been disproven.
6 (23:19) **The "Inception" Story: A Personal Telepathy Case Study** - Jonathan and Mayim share a personal story of a synchronicity that feels like telepathic communication.
7 (28:29) **The UAP Renaissance & Channeling Extraterrestrials** - Dr. Wahbeh discusses the intersection of UAP disclosure and channeling, which makes Mayim uncomfortable.

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Show Notes

What if science is finally catching up to the supernatural?

In part 2 of our episode with Dr. Helané Wahbeh (Director of Research at the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) and author of The Science of Channeling) she takes us inside the cutting edge of consciousness research, revealing what science is uncovering about channeling, psychic abilities, energy healing, telepathy, and the non-material aspects of reality.

As one of the world's leading researchers studying psi phenomena, Dr. Wahbeh explores where the evidence stands, why mainstream science is beginning to take these topics more seriously, and what it could mean for our understanding of consciousness itself.

Dr. Wahbeh breaks down:

- How scientists actually study channeling and just how common channeling really is

- Why respected scientific institutions are now researching channeling, telepathy, psychic phenomena, and consciousness, and what this says about the shift beyond a purely materialist worldview

- Can channeling be used to contact extraterrestrials? What evidence would actually be required to prove it scientifically

- Fascinating common themes reported by people who claim to channel extraterrestrial intelligences

- Groundbreaking telepathy research showing surprising results between emotionally bonded pairs, and what it may reveal about nonlocal consciousness

- Why our current definition of scientific proof may be too narrow when investigating paranormal and supernatural experiences

- Latest research into energy medicine and Reiki, including studies suggesting measurable physical changes that may help explain how energetic healing works

- Do spirit guides play a role in energy healing?

- What's really happening during exorcisms, spirit attachments, and the clearing of negative entities?

- Can energy work help heal or even reverse intergenerational trauma?

- How Dr. Wahbeh's own openness to psi phenomena has transformed her daily life, worldview, and even the way she parents

- Could the world's religions eventually expand to include scientifically studied psychic and extrasensory abilities?

- What a future science of consciousness might look like, and whether we're moving toward a comprehensive explanation of the non-material world

This conversation explores one of the biggest questions humanity has ever asked: Can science investigate experiences once dismissed as supernatural?

Whether you're fascinated by channeling, telepathy, consciousness research, psychic phenomena, extraterrestrials, energy healing, spirituality, or the future of science itself, this episode of Mayim Bialik's Breakdown offers a rare look at where rigorous research and extraordinary human experience intersect.

If you've ever wondered whether consciousness extends beyond the brain, or whether science is on the verge of redefining