Making Sense with Sam Harris
Making Sense with Sam Harris

#484 — Artificial Intimacy

July 8, 2026

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Artificial Intimacy: The Promise and Peril of AI Companions

In a conversation that moves from the swaddle habits of a four-month-old to the existential contours of machine consciousness, psychologist Paul Bloom and Sam Harris explore a frontier that has arrived faster than almost anyone predicted: the age of artificial intimacy. Bloom notes that his textbook Psych, published in 2023, already feels dated in its modest claims about AI's conversational abilities—because ChatGPT arrived and immediately surpassed them. What strikes both men most is not the technology itself but how quickly we have normalized it. As Bloom puts it, echoing a Louis CK routine, we are flying through the sky like gods and complaining that the peanuts aren't arriving fast enough.

The Uncanny Valley Has Been Crossed

Harris and Bloom previously co-wrote a New York Times op-ed arguing that a theme park like Westworld—where visitors could rape and kill humanoid robots—was functionally impossible because psychologically normal people could not do such things and then return to their families unchanged. The argument rested on the idea that once something looks, sounds, and behaves like a person, treating it as anything less becomes a kind of moral violation. That threshold, they now agree, has been crossed.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:24) **Introducing Paul Bloom** - Sam Harris welcomes psychologist Paul Bloom to discuss AI, loneliness, and artificial intimacy.
  • 2 (03:32) **AI's High-Variance Future** - Bloom expresses uncertainty about AI's trajectory, from post-scarcity utopia to catastrophic job loss and civil unrest.
  • 3 (06:35) **The Surprising Normalization of AI** - Both marvel at how quickly we accommodated to AI passing the Turing Test without cultural disruption.
  • 4 (08:53) **The Uncanny Valley and Consciousness** - The conversation shifts to whether AI will seem conscious and how that will affect human behavior.
  • 5 (11:28) **The "Her" Universe Arrives** - Both agree that disembodied AI companions already put us in the world of the 2013 film.
  • 6 (14:21) **Sam's Uncomfortable Encounter with Voice Mode** - Sam describes a visceral reaction when mocking an AI chatbot's failures in voice mode.
  • 7 (17:28) **Social Norms with Machines** - Both admit to using politeness with AI despite knowing it isn't conscious.

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Show Notes

Sam Harris speaks with Paul Bloom about our relationships with AI and the future of human connection. They discuss the surprising pace of AI progress, AI companions as a remedy for loneliness, the importance of mattering to other people, digitally resurrecting the dead, whether AI can be conscious, the moral failings of artists, what science actually knows about parenting, the ethics of apology, why late converts from Trump provoke outrage, and other topics.

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