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Velocity over everything: How Ramp became the fastest-growing SaaS startup of all time | Geoff Charles (VP of Product)

August 6, 2023

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Ramp's VP of Product Geoff Charles describes how the company achieved record SaaS growth—reaching $100M ARR in two years with 50 people—by centering operations on velocity. Key examples include building a competitor to Amex in three months with eight engineers, then Expensify six months later with four engineers and three PMs, and a Bill.com rival in three months using three engineers, one designer, and one PM, now processing billions in volume.

Velocity Through Small, Focused Teams

Ramp prioritizes velocity in hiring, incentives, promotions, and decisions, originating from early small-team constraints amid large market opportunities. Teams use single-threaded focus on one goal, with protective layers like rotational production engineers handling bugs and product operators managing escalations, documentation, and customer requests. Lofty goals draw from market comparables (e.g., Bill.com, Expensify) and detailed Figma/Loom prototypes. No bug backlogs exist; issues are fixed immediately, with shipping blocked if support tickets from confusion rise or metrics like NPS, CSAT, and operational burden (tickets per users) degrade.

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What you'll learn

1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: Geoff Charles**
2 (07:27) **Velocity as Core Culture**
3 (09:49) **Single-Threaded Teams for Speed**
4 (12:02) **Shielding Teams from Chaos**
5 (13:46) **Setting Lofty Goals**
6 (15:11) **Context Over Control: Empowering Teams**
7 (21:07) **Maintaining Quality at High Velocity**

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Show Notes

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Geoff Charles is VP of Product at Ramp—the fastest-growing SaaS startup of all time, Fast Company’s #1 Most Innovative Company in North America, and a company I believe we should all study for how they operate, execute, and hire. At Ramp, Geoff has led the product team from the early days, including the development and release of 60+ products and features in the past year alone. He has been building financial services for over a decade, and his interview in Lenny’s Newsletter quickly became one of the most widely read newsletter issues of all time. In today’s podcast, we will discuss:

• How velocity is at the heart of Ramp’s culture and success

• How writing can unlock clarity, creativity, and rapid problem-solving

• How to empower your product team through context sharing

• How to practically approach problems from first principles

• How Ramp approaches hiring in a unique way

• Suggestions for breaking into the world of product management

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Find the full transcript at: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/velocity-over-everything-how-ramp-became-the-fastest-growing-saas-startup-of-all-time-geoff-charl/#transcript

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Where to find Geoff Charles:

• Twitter: https://twitter.com/geoffintech

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoffrey-charles/