Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth

The happiness and pain of product management | Noam Lovinsky (Grammarly, Facebook, YouTube, Thumbtack)

March 17, 2024

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Noam Lovinsky, chief product officer at Grammarly, discusses product leadership across stages—from fixing early struggles at YouTube, turning around Thumbtack, incubating ideas at Facebook, to scaling Grammarly—drawing out principles on prioritization, resilience, and incentives.

Aligning personal work to business priorities

At YouTube, Lovinsky joined via acquisition and quickly assessed his inherited project against the broader roadmap, advocating to cancel it despite risking his role; leadership agreed, reallocating him to lead creator products. He later asked to report under Hunter Walk, effectively requesting to be layered, to better match his skills and the org structure—this succeeded due to trust in healthy teams that reward business-focused candor. Key principle: internalize company strategy to prioritize globally, not locally; a nose for talent and high-functioning teams provides confidence in such moves.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 `* (00:02:20) **Intro and low-online-presence philosophy**`
  • 2 `* (00:08:07) **YouTube: From -1 to 1 turnaround lessons**`
  • 3 `* (00:21:48) **Thumbtack: 1 to -1 to 1 revival strategy**`
  • 4 `* (00:38:39) **Facebook New Product Experimentation (NPE) team: 0 to 1 incubation**`
  • 5 `* (00:49:34) **Grammarly: Scaling a profitable B2C AI leader**`
  • 6 `* (00:59:08) **Career advice and lightning round**`
  • 7 Standout Quotes

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Show Notes

Noam Lovinsky has had a distinguished career in product, leaving an indelible mark at Facebook, YouTube, Thumbtack, and currently as the chief product officer at Grammarly. At Facebook, Noam helped establish the New Product Experimentation team; at Thumbtack, he was chief product officer; and at YouTube, he was one of the early product leaders overseeing the consumer experience. In our conversation, we discuss:

• Challenges and lessons from reviving growth at YouTube and Thumbtack

• Lessons from building Facebook’s New Product Experimentation team

• Insights into Grammarly’s success

• Knowing when it’s time to kill your project

• Why diversifying your growth channels is critical

• The power of visioning and storytelling in shaping product strategy

• How to create space for innovation at large companies

• The resilience and motivation of Grammarly’s team in Ukraine

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Find the full transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-happiness-and-pain-of-product

Where to find Noam Lovinsky:

• X: https://twitter.com/noaml

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/noaml/

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• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Noam’s background

(04:18) Noam’s lack of online presence

(08:06) Lessons from YouTube: advocating for what’s best for yourself and the team

(14:31) Prioritizing what’s best for the business

(19:37) Knowing when it’s time to kill a project

(21:47) Lessons from Thumbtack: diversifying growth channels and overcoming challenges

(26:24) How Thumbtack turned growth around

(31:44) Building Airbnb’s instant booking feature

(35:28) Lessons from Thumbtack: team collaboration and product strategy

(38:38) Lessons from Facebook: building the New Product Experimentation team

(40:43) The importance of starting small and b

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth