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Meta’s Head of Product (and 29th employee) on working with Mark Zuckerberg, early growth tactics, why PMs are like conductors, and more | Naomi Gleit

October 27, 2024

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Naomi Gleit, Meta's head of product and employee 29, shares principles from nearly 20 years at the company, including early growth tactics, leadership under Mark Zuckerberg, and her "Naomi-isms" for product management.

Growth Team Foundations

Gleit joined Facebook through persistence—cold-visiting the office repeatedly and volunteering on product projects until transitioning from marketing to PM. On the early growth team, the key insight was shifting from acquisition to retention via growth accounting (new users minus stale plus resurrected), revealing churn as the biggest lever. They defined activation as reaching 7 friends in 10 days (or 10 in 14), a retention inflection point, which drove new user onboarding like profile photos and friend suggestions. The "understand-identify-execute" framework prioritized data instrumentation first, then opportunity spotting (e.g., 20% email confirmation drop-off fixed via notifications), and product fixes over marketing. Growth succeeded by removing macro barriers (e.g., college-only access, language via community translations) and micro-frictions, aided by strong product-market fit.

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What you'll learn

1 **[00:02:00] Early Facebook Journey & Persistence Lessons**
2 **[00:13:00] Current Role as Head of Product**
3 **[00:17:00] Zuck's Leadership & Small Group Dynamics**
4 **[00:25:00] Legendary Growth Team Tactics**
5 **[00:43:00] Naomi-isms: PM as Conductor & Extreme Clarity**
6 **[00:53:00] Canonical Docs & Project Simplification**
7 **[01:06:00] Running High-Impact Meetings**

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Show Notes

Naomi Gleit is head of product at Meta, joined as employee #29, and is the longest-serving executive at Meta other than Mark Zuckerberg. She’s been at the center of some of the company’s most foundational products, including Facebook’s early growth team. In our conversation, we discuss:

• How she originally landed at Facebook

• The evolution of Facebook’s growth team and key metrics

• Lessons from working with Mark Zuckerberg

• Insights from Facebook’s activation metric and retention strategies

• Leadership lessons and “Naomiisms” for effective product management

• Tactics for creating extreme clarity in team communication

• Advice for running effective meetings

• More

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Find the transcript and show notes at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/metas-head-of-product-naomi-gleit

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Where to find Naomi Gleit:

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/naomigleit

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-gleit/

• Website: https://naomi.com/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Introduction to Naomi Gleit

(01:53) Naomi’s journey at Meta

(06:18) Landing a job at Facebook

(10:40) Becoming a product manager

(13:40) Working as Head of Product at Meta

(14:55) Insights on working with Mark Zuckerberg

(20:04) Small Groups and “disagreeable givers”

(24:28) The legendary growth team

(33:45) Activation metrics and onboarding

(43:44) Naomi’s leadership and PM philosophy

(53:00) Canonical documents

(55:55) Simplifying complex projects

(01:00:33) Teen accounts: a case study

(01:06:37) Running effective meetings

(01:12:10) The importance of exercise

(01:16:36) The role of a product manager

(01:25:49) Lightning round