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How Netflix builds a culture of excellence | Elizabeth Stone (CTO)

February 22, 2024

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Elizabeth Stone, Netflix's CTO and former VP of Data and Insights, discusses how her economics PhD informs her approach to incentives and unintended consequences in tech leadership. She outlines Netflix's culture of high talent density, radical candor, and freedom with responsibility, shares tactics for career acceleration through dedication and team support, and explains the company's centralized data structure.

Economics mindset in tech

Stone credits her economics training for framing problems tractably, especially around incentives—both internal (motivating teams) and external (consumer behavior and competition). This perspective helps anticipate unintended outcomes, complementing data science by simplifying business challenges. She expects more economists in tech as companies value this lens for rational yet psychologically informed decision-making.

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What you'll learn

1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: Elizabeth Stone**
2 (04:41) **Life as Netflix CTO vs. VP of Data & Insights**
3 (05:57) **Economics Background in Tech Leadership**
4 (08:32) **Tactical Benefits of Economics Training**
5 (10:08) **Secret Sauce for Meteoric Career Rise**
6 (14:35) **Examples of Dedication and High Standards**
7 (20:15) **Helping Teams Level Up Excellence**

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Show Notes

Elizabeth Stone is the chief technology officer of Netflix. She previously served as vice president of product data science and engineering, and as vice president of data and insights, at Netflix. Before Netflix, Elizabeth was vice president of science at Lyft, chief operating officer at Nuna, a trader at Merrill Lynch, and an economist at Analysis Group. In our conversation, we discuss:

• Elizabeth’s advice for career advancement

• Netflix’s unique high-performance culture

• How, and why, Netflix maintains a high bar for excellence

• Intentional leadership practices

• How to foster an “open door” culture within your team

• The Keeper Test and how it contributes to maintaining a high bar for excellence

• The power of transparent communication

• Much more

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Find the full transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-netflix-builds-a-culture-of-excellence

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Where to find Elizabeth Stone:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-stone-608a754/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Elizabeth’s background

(04:36) Life as CTO vs. VP of Data

(05:57) The role of economists in tech companies

(08:32) Using economics to understand incentives

(10:07) Success and career growth

(20:15) Setting expectations

(25:02) Advice for how to avoid burnout

(27:44) Netflix culture: high talent density

(30:31) Netflix culture: candor and directness

(31:45) The Keeper Test

(39:01) Maintaining a high bar for excellence

(43:54) Netflix culture: freedom and responsibility

(46:18) Unconventional processes at Netflix

(47:55) Examples of candor

(51:44) Data and insights team structure

(01:00:12) Staying close to teams

(01:02:31) Advice on being present

(01:07:40) Lightning round

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