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Becoming an AI PM | Aman Khan (Arize AI, ex-Spotify, Apple, Cruise)

November 14, 2024

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🎙️ The Voices & The Context

The Format: This episode is an engaging interview that delves into the evolving role of product managers in the realm of artificial intelligence (AI). The conversation is reflective, focused on career insights and practical tips.
The Key Players:
- Aman Khan: Director of Product at Arise AI, known for his extensive experience in AI product management at companies like Spotify and Apple. His unique perspective comes from intentionally remaining an individual contributor (IC) in a landscape where many PMs climb the corporate ladder.

🗝️ Key Themes & Topics

Transitioning into AI Product Management: The episode discusses how to pivot a career towards AI product management, highlighting that it’s now easier than before due to accessible resources.
Types of AI Product Managers: Aman categorizes AI PMs into three types—AI platform PMs, AI product PMs, and AI-powered PMs—each with distinct roles.
The Importance of Empathy in Product Management: The conversation emphasizes the need for PMs to engage deeply with their teams and understand the technical challenges faced by engineers.
Navigating Uncertainty: Aman discusses the challenges PMs face in uncertain environments and the importance of being a "wanderer" to identify the right direction for products.

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What you'll learn

1 `(00:00)` **🎙️ Introduction: Aman Khan**
2 `(00:20)` **Exploring AI Product Management**
3 `(01:04)` **Guest Introduction**
4 `(01:31)` **Key Topics of Discussion**
5 `(02:16)` **Aman’s Unique Perspective**
6 `(02:38)` **How to Transition into AI PM**
7 `(03:27)` **Diving Into AI Product Management**

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Show Notes

Aman Khan is Director of Product at Arize AI, an observability company for AI engineers at companies like Uber, Instacart, and Discord. Previously he was an AI Product Manager at Spotify on the ML Platform team, enabling hundreds of engineers to build and ship products across the company. He has also led and worked on products at Cruise, Zipline, and Apple. In our conversation, we discuss:

• What is an “AI product manager”?

• How to break into AI PM

• What separates top 5% AI PMs

• How to thrive as an individual-contributor PM

• Common pitfalls to avoid when building AI products

• The importance of energy and curiosity in product roles

• Much more

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Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/becoming-an-ai-pm-aman-khan

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Where to find Aman Khan:

• X: https://x.com/_amankhan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanberkeley/

• Website: https://amanalikhan.com/

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• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Aman’s background

(06:16) Understanding AI product management roles

(13:29) Getting started as an AI product manager

(18:14) Building a portfolio and standing out

(22:31) Why product management is not dead

(28:56) How to thrive as an AI product manager

(35:42) Finding good ideas that are AI-oriented

(39:27) Be careful not to automate away every customer experience

(42:53) What separates top 5% AI PMs

(46:55) Key habits for long-term IC success

(52:48) The importance of energy in meetings

(57:00) Wandering vs. waiting

(01:01:41) Amplifying signal through AI tools

(01:03:18) Just have fun

(01:05:36) Lightning round

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Referenced:

• AI Resources and Tools for PMs (Upd