John Kiriakou's Dead Drop
John Kiriakou's Dead Drop

S2E15 The Home Stretch

August 24, 2026

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The Rat List

John Kiriakou had been in prison long enough to know the rules. Roommates come and go, and the key to survival is learning who you can trust. When his friend Dave got sent to solitary after planting a shank in a child molester's cell, Kiriakou and his other roommate Frank did what friends do: they cleaned out Dave's locker before the cops could get to it, stashing his belongings under their own bunks. But when Kiriakou picked up one of the books he had loaned Dave, a piece of paper fell out. In Dave's handwriting, it read "Rat List"—a roster of names and an accounting of bad things each person had done, which the list itself indicated Dave had already taken to the authorities. The first name on top was Kiriakou's own.

The Con Man Next Door

Kiriakou had met Dave Phillips in Pakistan in 2002, when Kiriakou was working counterterrorism for the CIA and Dave was a defense contractor doing intelligence work. They crossed paths again at Loretto prison and became friends. Dave had a detailed, elaborate story about how he ended up in prison—maintaining his innocence while facing fifty-four years, then taking a nine-year plea deal. Kiriakou believed him. He stopped looking at Dave critically, which turned out to be a costly mistake.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:00) **Ad Block** - Multiple podcast advertisements for Monday.com, Citizens Bank, and ACAST.
  • 2 (01:37) **The Discovery of Dave's Betrayal** - John describes cleaning out his friend Dave's locker after Dave is sent to solitary, only to find a "rat list" with John's name at the top.
  • 3 (05:17) **Dave's True Identity: A Con Man, Not a Spy** - John details how he was fooled by Dave's fabricated CIA career and his history as a financial predator.
  • 4 (08:03) **The Fallout from Dave's Rat List** - John recounts the punishments other prisoners faced because of Dave's information, including a shakedown and a transfer.
  • 5 (10:10) **Dave's Continued Harassment from Another Prison** - John describes how Dave, after being transferred, continued to try to manipulate John's life from a distance.
  • 6 (14:06) **The Search for a New Roommate** - With Dave gone, John and his roommates struggle to find a replacement, leading to the arrival of a deeply problematic new inmate.
  • 7 (15:18) **The Arrival and Backstory of Sher Molani** - John introduces Sher, a one-armed Afghan war hero with a horrific injury and severe PTSD, who is a convicted child molester.

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Show Notes

IN THIS EPISODE When John first entered the gates of Loretto Federal Prison, his goal was to use all his training as a spy to survive prison. But, just as with spying, prison can be very unpredictable. In fact, John found that he'd been fooled by one of his roommates - who'd been betraying him from the jump. As he enters the home stretch of his sentence, John doubles down on his mission to use everything he learned as a spy to survive prison to the bitter end.


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