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530: The 8 Life Lessons to Keep Your Head Above Water. With Andy Stumpf

March 4, 2026

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Andy Stumpf’s new book, Drown Proof: 8 Life Lessons to Keep Your Head Above Water, opens with a scene where his commanding officer slides a pair of scissors across a table and tells him to cut the Trident off his uniform. Stumpf was 19 years old, six weeks out of SEAL training, and facing Captain’s Mast for a drunken bar fight that ended with him running from police. That moment—staring at the scissors, thinking his career was over—became the pivot point of his life. He walked into the hearing ready to blame the cops and the bouncer. Instead, he apologized, took full responsibility, and asked for a chance to prove who he wanted to become. That shift in perspective is the foundation of his new book, Drown Proof: 8 Life Lessons to Keep Your Head Above Water.

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  • 1 Timestamped Outline: Jocko Podcast 530 – Andy Stumpf, "Drown Proof"
  • 2 (00:00) **Opening & Book Introduction** - Jocko reads an excerpt from Andy Stumpf's new book *Drown Proof*, then welcomes Andy back after nine years
  • 3 (13:58) **The Trident Cut Off** - Andy's lowest moment: at 19, his commanding officer makes him cut his SEAL trident off his uniform after a bar fight and police evasion
  • 4 (18:50) **Owning Your Mistakes** - Jocko and Andy discuss the power of taking full responsibility rather than deflecting blame
  • 5 (26:15) **Jiu-Jitsu, Starting, and the Grind** - Andy started jiu-jitsu six years ago; the conversation shifts to why starting is hard but the real challenge is the grind after you start
  • 6 (41:36) **The Power of Saying No** - Every successful person has periods of extreme imbalance; the tool that unlocks progress is learning to say no
  • 7 (50:40) **Identity Beyond the Uniform** - Andy's mantra: "Being a SEAL is what I did, it will never be who I am"

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Throughout his 17-year career, Andy executed hundreds of combat operations throughout the world in support of the Global War on Terror. He was medically retired in June of 2013. His awards and decorations include 5 Bronze Star Medals (Four with Valor), the Purple Heart, the Joint Service Commendation Medal, The Navy and Marine Corp Commendation Medal with Valor, Three Navy and Marine Corp Achievement Medals, Two Combat Action Ribbons, and the presidential Unit Citation.



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