Come on and Ride the Train: The Kastner Story Part VII

January 17, 2026

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Come on and Ride the Train: The Kastner Story Part VII

In the summer of 1943, more than a year before the Nazis occupied Hungary, Rudolf Kastner stood before eighty members of the Zionist Pioneer Youth Movements in the Buda Mountains and posed a question that would haunt him for the rest of his life. "We are faced with a difficult problem," he told them. "We will not be able to save all the Jews of Hungary. The problem is whether we are permitted to function as God—that is, to decide whom to save and whom not to save? Are we morally permitted to save only some of the Jews? How will history judge us?" After an oppressive silence, one attendee rose to disagree, arguing that if they had the ability to save even one Jew, they must do so without hesitation. A vote was held, and that latter position was approved. Kastner himself had predicted that history would one day sit in judgment of his choices.

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1 Come on and Ride the Train: The Kastner Story Part VII
2 Timestamped Outline
3 (00:14) **Opening and Episode Overview** - The host introduces Part VII of the Kastner series, explaining this installment will begin covering the trial that took place in a Jerusalem district court in the mid-1950s, known as the Kastner trial, where Kastner was the star witness but never the defendant.
4 (02:22) **Kastner's 1943 Speech on Moral Dilemmas** - A little-known meeting from summer 1943, long before Nazi occupation of Hungary, where Kastner laid out the moral problem of deciding whom to save.
5 (11:20) **History's Judgment Comes Full Circle** - The Supreme Court's 1958 verdict on the Kastner trial appeal mirrors Kastner's own 1943 language about history being the judge.
6 (15:48) **Post-War Landscape and the Dispersal of Survivors** - What happened to the key figures after the war, including Kastner, the Kastner train survivors, and other rescue activists.
7 (20:54) **The Pros and Cons of Kastner** - A balanced assessment of Kastner's achievements versus his flaws and failures.

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Show Notes

Following the war’s end in 1945, the controversy surrounding Kastner’s wartime activities began to emerge. Some pointed to the fact that he rescued an entire trainload of Jews, while others accused him of failing to warn Hungarian Jewry of the impending deportations to Auschwitz. The Jewish People in general and Israeli society in particular were reeling from the trauma of the Holocaust. The trial involving the story of Kastner and his negotiations takes place in the context of Israeli society of the 1950’s. Two salient features hover in the background across broader society. A traumatized people facing not its murderers but rather alleged Jewish collaborators, and the inter Israeli politics, with many resentful against the Mapai political establishment who were the leaders of the Israeli government during this time. These two undercurrents serve as the backdrop for the unfolding trial, which was instigated by a pamphlet published by Malkiel Grunwald in August 1952 accusing Kastner of Nazi collaboration. The State of Israel sued Grunwald for libel, and the latter retained the legal counsel of a brilliant and talented lawyer named Shmuel Tamir, who came to dominate the subsequent trial proceedings.

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