Ølekspert Carsten Berthelsen: Jeg kan godt lide at gå til grænsen
July 25, 2025
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5 min read"Everything is a fight. But for me it has been a kind of gliding transition, because I have been so naive, so I have thought, when people taste this, they must be able to recognize that this is fantastic."
That line from Carsten Berthelsen captures the spirit of a man who helped lead Denmark's beer renaissance. In a conversation that ranges from ancient fermentation to modern craft breweries, Berthelsen—a former Carlsberg employee turned beer sommelier teacher at the restaurant school—explains the deep cultural history of beer, the unique position of Belgium as the world's beer capital, and why the drink deserves the same reverence as wine.
The Three Great Beer Traditions
Berthelsen breaks beer into three fundamental categories based on fermentation method. The first is lager beer (bottom-fermented, cold-fermented between 8 and 15 degrees Celsius). This is the familiar Danish pilsner style—though Berthelsen points out that what Danes call "their beer" is actually a Czech invention. Traditional lagers were fermented for 90 days.
The second category is ale (top-fermented, warm-fermented between 15 and 25 degrees Celsius). This is the older, more traditional method, and it produces beers with greater complexity and intoxicating character. Berthelsen identifies himself as "an old-fashioned conservative beer drinker" who prefers what people have always drunk.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:03) **Introduction: Carsten Berthelsen, Mr. Beer in Denmark** - The host introduces Carsten, a well-known beer expert from DK4, and establishes his reputation.
- 2 (03:50) **Origin Story: From Carlsberg to Beer Sommelier** - Carsten describes how his passion for beer began, not with taste, but with the vibrant work environment at Carlsberg.
- 3 (05:56) **The Beer Revolution: A Return to Craft** - The conversation shifts to the modern craft beer movement as a reaction against industrialization.
- 4 (06:46) **Ancient Roots: The History of Beer** - A brief journey into the historical origins of beer.
- 5 (09:54) **The Three Main Schools of Beer** - Carsten breaks down the fundamental categories of beer based on fermentation.
- 6 (13:19) **From Hobby Expert to Acknowledged Oracle** - Carsten reflects on his transition from a passionate amateur to a public expert.
- 7 (15:08) **Beer and Tradition: Christmas, Easter, and Barnsøl** - The role of strong, festive beers in Danish and Christian traditions.
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Show Notes
I denne uges episode fortæller Carsten om værtshusene, menneskene og oplevelserne, der formede hans passion og om at gøre sin hobby til sit levebrød med stædighed, kærlighed og kompromisløshed.
Samtalen er både historisk og personlig. Der tales om gamle ølkældre, livsvalg og kampen for at følge sit kald.
Lyt med til en fortælling om skæbne, smag og at turde gå sin egen vej.
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