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The Ezra Klein Show: The A.I. Revolt Is Here

September 11, 2026

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In August 2024, a heat map news poll found that about four in ten voters would oppose a data center being built where they live. By May of 2025, opposition had grown to seven in ten. That rapid shift is the subject of this conversation between Ezra Klein and reporter Jasmine Sun, who spent the summer traveling through Wisconsin and Michigan talking to the people organizing against the AI industry's physical infrastructure. The backlash, she argues, is not just about noise or water or ugly buildings. It is about something deeper: a growing conviction that AI is an elite political project being imposed on communities without their consent.

The Three Layers of Backlash

Sun identifies three converging layers of opposition. The first is process. In many towns, data center developers required local officials to sign non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) before revealing what they were planning. Council members could not tell their constituents whether the project was a data center, who the customer was (OpenAI, Anthropic, etc.), or how much electricity it would consume. Rumors filled the vacuum, and officials lost the ability to get ahead of the social media narrative. "The only way to keep a secret between three people is to kill two of them," one construction union VP told Sun. Microsoft has since stopped using NDAs, and other labs are considering the same move. "All of the pr

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  • 1 The Ezra Klein Show: The A.I. Revolt Is Here
  • 2 Timestamped Outline
  • 3 (02:26) **The Data Center Backlash Arrives** - Ezra introduces the surprising bipartisan opposition to AI data centers, citing polls showing 70% of voters now oppose local data center construction.
  • 4 (06:01) **What Data Centers Actually Look and Sound Like** - Jasmine describes her reporting trip through rural Wisconsin and Michigan, painting a sensory picture of the installations.
  • 5 (07:45) **Who Is Organizing Against Data Centers** - Jasmine profiles the surprising coalition of activists she met on the ground.
  • 6 (08:35) **Why Data Centers Are Uniquely Unpopular** - Jasmine explains that opposition to data centers is far more intense than opposition to other industrial projects like chip fabs, auto plants, or solar farms.
  • 7 (10:12) **The NDA Problem That Inflamed Everything** - Jasmine reveals how non-disclosure agreements signed by local officials created a trust crisis.

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The “Hard Fork” team is away this week. But while we’re away, we’re bringing you a recent episode of “The Ezra Klein Show.”

In this episode, Ezra talks with the journalist Jasmine Sun about her recent reporting trip through the Midwest, where she explored how the data center backlash is playing out on the ground.

Ezra and Jasmine discuss the strange political coalitions that are coming together to oppose the A.I. infrastructure build out, and why people don’t believe what they’re being told about it.

 

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