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5 min readFrom Kazakhstan to the Cider Renaissance: The Surprising Story of the Apple
The Roxbury Russet, America's oldest named apple variety dating back to the 1630s, tastes like "a lemonade that you would make with lemons, pears, and honey," according to Yankee magazine senior food editor Amy Traverso. It has bright acidity, rich sweetness, floral pear aromas, and a nutty flavor from its brown russeted skin. Yet you will almost certainly never find it in a grocery store. Instead, you will find the Red Delicious, which as Gastropod co-host Nicola Twilley puts it, "is red but not delicious at all." How America went from 14,000 apple varieties to a handful of mediocre supermarket options—and how cider is bringing the lost diversity back—is the story of this episode.
The Apple's Journey from Kazakhstan to the American Frontier
Apples are not native to America. They originated in Kazakhstan, near the city now called Almaty, which means "father of the apple." There, whole forests of apple trees grow, producing fruit ranging from olive-sized to large brown specimens, most of them dry, bitter, and tannic—traits that helped them survive drops to the ground and resist insects. Bears, however, preferred the sweeter, larger, redder apples that occasionally appeared, and by spreading those seeds, they helped select for the very qualities humans would later want.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:03) **Welcome to Pine Hill Orchards** - Cynthia visits a Massachusetts apple farm with cider maker Soham Bat, describing the sensory experience of the apple storage room
- 2 (02:58) **The Non-American Origins of Apples** - Amy Traverso explains that apples actually come from Kazakhstan, not America
- 3 (08:20) **Apple's Botanical Superpowers** - Apples spread along the Silk Road and flourished due to unique genetic traits
- 4 (11:08) **Grafting: The Human Intervention** - To preserve good apples, humans turned to cloning instead of sexual reproduction
- 5 (13:12) **America's Oldest Named Apple** - Amy introduces the Roxbury Russet from 1630s Massachusetts
- 6 (15:41) **The Real Johnny Appleseed** - Michael Pollan reveals the true story behind the American folk hero
- 7 (19:25) **Johnny's Cider Orchard Revelation** - The key insight: Johnny planted apples for alcohol, not eating
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Show Notes
There’s nothing more American than apple pie—or is there? We might prescribe an apple a day and call our largest city the Big Apple, but this legendary fruit originally hails from the mountains of Kazakhstan. This episode, Michael Pollan (something of a legend himself) tells us how apples become so important on the American frontier, and what cider (the alcoholic kind) had to do with it. We talk to apple fan Amy Traverso and apple detective Dan Bussey to figure out how many thousands of apple varieties used to grow in America, and why are there only a handful—including the notorious Red Delicious, which, while red, is far from delicious—in supermarkets today? All that, plus we get out in the orchard with Soham Bhatt to learn about the cider renaissance that's sweeping the nation. (encore)
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