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5 min readThe man at the centre of South Africa's state capture inquiry finally speaks
When former South African President Jacob Zuma finally appeared before the commission investigating corruption during his nine years in power, he did not come to answer questions. He came to deliver a performance. He told the commission that his enemies inside the African National Congress were spies, that foreign intelligence agencies—implied to be the CIA and others—had instructed them to fabricate allegations, and that people were trying to kill him with suicide bombers and poison. It was, as FT correspondent Joseph Cottrell put it, "classic Jacob Zuma."
But in the days that followed, the drama deflated. When the commission's lawyers pressed Zuma on specific allegations—a former cabinet secretary who said Zuma told him to do certain favours for the Gupta family, the businessman brothers at the centre of the corruption network—his answers became repetitive: "I don't know. I can't remember."
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- 1 (00:28) **South Africa's State Capture Inquiry Begins** - Host Gideon Rachman introduces the episode's focus: the dramatic testimony of former President Jacob Zuma before a commission investigating "state capture."
- 2 (02:58) **Zuma's Defiant and Conspiratorial Testimony** - Joseph Cottrell describes Zuma's opening performance at the inquiry, which mixed dramatic conspiracy theories with a refusal to answer specific allegations.
- 3 (04:02) **The Audience for Zuma's Narrative** - The discussion examines whether Zuma's conspiratorial claims find a receptive audience in South Africa and within the ANC.
- 4 (05:04) **The Internal ANC Fight and Parallel Realities** - David Pinning explains that Zuma's defense is tied to a faction within the ANC whose own fates depend on his version of events prevailing.
- 5 (07:02) **Ramaphosa's Stalled Reform Effort** - The conversation shifts to President Ramaphosa's broader effort to right the South African economy, which is not going well.
- 6 (08:05) **The Fight is Bigger Than Zuma** - A former minister's testimony warns against "over-Zumanizing" the corruption, framing it as a much larger network than just one president.
- 7 (09:08) **A Last Chance for the ANC?** - David Pinning assesses the future of the ANC as a liberation party that has lost popularity and is facing rivals.
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Show Notes
The judicial inquiry into alleged graft under the presidency of Jacob Zuma is laying bare the divisions of the ruling ANC. Gideon Rachman discusses Mr Zuma's testimony with Joseph Cotterill in Johannesburg and David Pilling, Africa editor.
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