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Jean Smart bids farewell to ‘Hacks’

August 4, 2026

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Jean Smart’s eight-times-great-grandmother was accused of witchcraft in Salem in 1692. She escaped hanging by one day because she confessed—a clever survival tactic, Smart now thinks, since the authorities loved a repentant sinner. The woman was an eccentric: she owned a book on fortune telling, ran a small cat burglary ring with her daughters, and had a four-foot-seven-inch “elf lock” of matted hair that she refused to let anyone cut. When Smart learned this while filming a genealogy show, she cried. It felt like something out of The Crucible—except Arthur Miller had access to the same historical transcripts, not a past-life regression.

The Deborah Vance arc: from guarded to relaxed

Smart’s role on Hacks—the aging comedian Deborah Vance—has already won her four Emmys, and she is nominated again for the fifth and final season. The show broke the record for most Emmy nominations for a comedy series in a single year. Over five seasons, Deborah softened. In the early seasons, she would never have let anyone see her at a loss. But in season five, when she needed Carol Burnett’s iconic beaded jumpsuit for her Madison Square Garden comeback, she found herself completely at the mercy of her young protégé, Ava. Deborah asked Ava to pretend to be her lesbian lover over a weekend to endear themselves to the jumpsuit’s owner. Ava, furious, demanded a thousand dollars and made De

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  • 1 (02:22) **Deborah Vance's "Juggles the Clown" Scheme** - Jean Smart breaks down a favorite season-five episode where Deborah pretends Ava is her lesbian lover to get Carol Burnett's jumpsuit.
  • 2 (07:44) **Parallel Careers with Co-Star Hannah Einbinder** - Smart discusses how both she and her co-star began their careers on hit shows about female friendships.
  • 3 (09:36) **Playing Floyd Gerhardt in *Fargo*** - Smart analyzes her role as the matriarch of the Gerhard crime family and how she built the character.
  • 4 (15:53) **Family History: Descendant of a Salem Witch Trial Victim** - Smart shares the discovery that her eight-times-great-grandmother was prosecuted in the Salem Witch Trials.
  • 5 (22:50) **Meeting Her Late Husband Richard Gilliland** - Smart recalls the instant connection with her husband of 35 years on the set of *Designing Women*.
  • 6 (24:40) **How They Stayed Married 35 Years** - Smart discusses the challenges of maintaining a long marriage in Hollywood.
  • 7 (28:09) **Adopting a Baby at Age 57** - Smart explains the long journey to adopt her second child from China.

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Show Notes

The fifth and final season of the HBO comedy series ‘Hacks’ is nominated for 24 Emmys, including one for Smart as best actress in a comedy series. The writers “raised the bar every single season," Smart tells guest interviewer Aarti Shahani. They talk about why the show is ending, Smart’s distant relative who narrowly escaped the Salem Witch Trials, and adopting a baby when she was in her 50s. 

Also, book critic Maureen Corrigan reviews the novel ‘Country People,’ by Daniel Mason. 

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