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5 min readInside Ukraine’s Drone War: Maj. “Phoenix” of the Lazarus Group
Major Yuri, call sign “Phoenix,” was running an IT business in Kyiv when Russia launched its full-scale invasion. Within two days, he moved his family to safety and returned to join the local defense. Before the war, he had built his first drone in 2010 — a GoPro-equipped quadcopter he used to inspect building roofs for a client’s security system. That hobby became the foundation of a military career. Phoenix is now a major in Ukraine’s National Guard and a key figure in the Lazarus Group, one of the country’s most advanced drone units. In a conversation on Eye On A.I., he walked through how Lazarus evolved from a small team with a satellite-link idea into a 1,600-person operation that has destroyed hundreds of Russian armored vehicles — and what that evolution reveals about the future of ground warfare.
From Starlink Bombers to a Layered Drone Arsenal
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What you'll learn
- 1 Episode Outline
- 2 (00:00) **Introduction: The Kill Zone and the War of Drones** - The host sets up the core thesis: drone technology is creating a massive "kill zone" that separates armies and is evolving into a war of drones against drones.
- 3 (00:41) **Background: From IT Businessman to Drone Commander** - Major Phoenix introduces himself and explains his pre-war life as an IT entrepreneur, which provided the technical foundation for his wartime role.
- 4 (04:13) **The First Armed Drones: Lazarus Group's Innovation** - The conversation details the origin of using drones as weapons, clarifying that Lazarus Group pioneered the heavy bomber concept.
- 5 (11:06) **The Evolution of the Drone Crew** - The unit's operational model evolved from a single pilot to a two-person crew, dramatically improving accuracy and mission effectiveness.
- 6 (12:26) **A Taxonomy of Drones on the Front Line** - Major Phoenix provides a clear breakdown of the different drone types, their specific roles, and ranges in the Ukrainian arsenal.
- 7 (15:47) **The Development Sequence: Bombers First, Then ISR** - The unit's growth was driven by a practical need: after building multiple bombers, they lacked enough targets, so they developed their own ISR capability.
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Show Notes
The first armed drone Ukraine ever fielded wasn't built in a factory or procured from a defense contractor. It was built in four months by a network engineer using a Starlink terminal and a large agricultural quadcopter frame, and the man who built it, Maj Phoenix, co-founder of Lasars Group, joins Craig Smith in Kyiv to explain exactly how it happened and what the battlefield looks like now. The conversation traces the full arc from that first prototype - with its two-person crew of pilot and navigator, operating beyond line of sight using satellite imagery and landmarks - to the layered drone architecture Lasars Group now operates: FPV drones on fiber optic covering 30 kilometers, heavy bombers reaching 65 kilometers, ISR planes surveilling the entire range, and interceptors protecting each crew position.
The most unexpected part of this conversation is what drone technology has done to the physical shape of the war. As drone range has expanded - from rifles at 400 meters to FPV at 10 kilometers to heavy bombers at 65 kilometers - the kill zone between the two armies has grown to match, pushing human soldiers further apart and turning the conflict increasingly into drones fighting drones rather than people fighting people. Phoenix frames this explicitly as a reduction in human casualties. The episode also reveals a genuinely surprising institutional innovation: Ukraine's "Army of Drones Bonus" system, a gamified procurement platform where units earn virtual points for destroyed targets and spend them on a drone marketplace, creating competition among manufacturers to build cheaper, more effective systems and directing the best equipment to the highest-performing units. Craig also asks directly about the psychological reality of FPV warfare, following a specific soldier through a camera, watching him try to hide, and killing him, and Phoenix answers with a moral clarity that is both philosophically coherent and quietly unsettling.
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