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Sarah Paine — Why Russia Lost the Cold War

December 19, 2025

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🎙️ The Voices & The Context

  • The Format: This lecture-style presentation by a military historian tours counterarguments to why the Soviet Union lost the Cold War, blending sharp analysis with visuals and humor, before shifting to a reflective Q&A probing deeper causes like economic rot. It's an instructive, myth-busting dissection delivered with professorial wit and audience engagement.
  • The Format: A solo lecture evolving into host-guest Q&A.
  • The Key Players:
  • Guest: Sarah Paine, renowned Stanford historian of naval and grand strategy, famous for demystifying why empires collapse and offering timeless lessons on power dynamics.
  • Hosts: Dwarkesh Patel, sharp podcaster who steers Q&A toward economics, reforms, and modern parallels with probing curiosity.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 **(00:00) 🎙️ Introduction: Sarah Payne**
  • 2 **(00:20) Reagan Single-Handedly Defeated the Soviets**
  • 3 **(05:52) Counterargument: Ford, Carter, and Human Rights**
  • 4 **(09:49) Counterargument: Nixon's China Card**
  • 5 **(11:40) Cumulative US Presidential Strategy**
  • 6 **(12:54) US Technological Edge: Submarine Threat**
  • 7 **(15:32) Internal Failures: Soviet Empire Collapse**

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Show Notes

This is the final episode of the Sarah Paine lecture series, and it’s probably my favorite one. Sarah gives a “tour of the arguments” on what ultimately led to the Soviet Union’s collapse, diving into the role of the US, the Sino-Soviet border conflict, the oil bust, ethnic rebellions and even the Roman Catholic Church. As she points out, this is all particularly interesting as we find ourselves potentially at the beginning of another Cold War.

As we wrap up this lecture series, I want to take a moment to thank Sarah for doing this with me. It has been such a pleasure.

If you want more of her scholarship, I highly recommend checking out the books she’s written. You can find them here.

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Timestamps

(00:00:00) – Did Reagan single-handedly win the Cold War?

(00:15:53) – Eastern Bloc uprisings & oil crisis

(00:30:37) – Gorbachev’s mistakes

(00:37:33) – German unification and NATO expansion

(00:48:31) – The Gulf War and the Cold War endgame

(00:56:10) – How central planning survived so long

(01:14:46) – Sarah’s life in the USSR in 1988



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