Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson
Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson

SPECIAL SERIES ==> 🚫 Delete These 5 Things From Your Landing Page <== | BATHROOM Break #126 COLLAB: The Marketing Millennials + Do This, Not That

September 21, 2026

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"For every additional must-fill field, you will lose 8% of your registrants"

In this special collaboration episode between Do This, NOT That and The Marketing Millennials, Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray deliver a focused, practical breakdown of the five biggest mistakes killing conversion on landing pages—and what to do instead. The conversation is framed around a simple premise: if someone clicked through to your offer page, they were interested. Something on that page is turning them off. The fix is usually not a bigger campaign budget but a handful of specific, psychology-backed changes.

The field count trap

The most immediate conversion killer is asking for too much information. Jay cites a specific, data-backed rule: for every additional must-fill field on a landing page or offer form, you lose 8% of registrants. The implication is straightforward—if you have ten fields and you only need five, you are voluntarily destroying nearly half your response rate. The hosts stress that this applies regardless of whether you are selling to businesses or consumers. Collect only what you genuinely need. Every extra field is a friction point that gives the visitor a reason to abandon the page.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:07) **Cold Open & Plane Gross-Out Stories** - Jay and Daniel bond over disgusting airplane behavior before jumping into landing page tips.
  • 2 (02:50) **Tip #1: Reduce Must-Fill Fields** - Every additional required field on a form destroys conversion rates.
  • 3 (03:27) **Tip #2: Use Specific Social Proof Under the CTA** - Place a statistic that names your audience and uses a specific number.
  • 4 (04:52) **Tip #3: Remove the Navigation Bar** - Eliminate all links and the main menu to trap visitors on the page.
  • 5 (05:31) **Tip #4: Add Relevant Client/Partner Logos** - Use logos to validate the visitor's decision and build trust.
  • 6 (06:54) **Tip #5: Make the CTA Button Pop & Use Actionable Copy** - The button color must stand out, and the text must reiterate the offer.
  • 7 (09:02) **Closing Banter: Airplane Hygiene Rituals** - The hosts discuss their personal cleaning rituals after flying.

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Show Notes

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Landing pages are where most marketing budgets quietly go to die, and the fixes are usually smaller than you'd think. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray run through the specific things killing conversion rates right now, from the number of form fields you're demanding to the word sitting on your button. There's also a fairly involved detour into airplane hygiene that produces

Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson