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5 min readSaturated x Deepen with Jennie Allen
The most striking moment of the night came when people in the congregation began yelling out their sins aloud. Jennie Allen, who has spoken in prisons and on college campuses, said she had never seen all generations respond that way at once. "That was wild," she said. The desperation in the room was palpable—and that desperation, she argued, is exactly what the American church has been missing.
The cost of revival
Allen's central claim was simple: "We want revival without the cost." She explained that she goes into many rooms, and some break open with the Spirit while others don't. The difference is desperation—whether people are willing to say they don't have it and need God. "Most people won't do that," she said. "College students do it real easily. When I go in prisons, inmates do it real easily."
The cost, she explained, is honesty. Confession means saying what is true—whether about sin or about need. But people protect their reputations. It is easier to be cynical, to water things down, to say something safe. The real question is whether you will say what is actually going on.
Pastor Joby Martin connected this to a pattern he sees: people want the benefits without the work. They want to be influencers without creating content, to be in shape without going to the gym. Spiritually, they want transformation without repentance.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **Desperation vs. Comfort** - The hosts and Jenny Allen open by discussing the core theme of the night: wanting revival without its cost.
- 2 (06:55) **Neighbors to Nations: The Dual Mission** - Joby Martin describes his church's discipleship framework, connecting local evangelism with global mission.
- 3 (08:26) **Shame, Porn Addiction, and the Older Brother** - The conversation shifts to men's struggles with addiction and how shame keeps them enslaved.
- 4 (10:30) **A Real-Time Example of Discipleship** - Jenny recounts a specific interaction with a young woman after the service.
- 5 (13:12) **The Gender Divide in Gen Z** - The hosts discuss a sociological shift where young men are becoming more conservative and religious while young women are becoming more progressive.
- 6 (17:50) **Co-Laboring in Marriage and Ministry** - Jenny describes the biblical model of men and women as co-laborers, not competitors.
- 7 (23:18) **Generational Discipleship Crisis** - The conversation turns to the need for older Christians to disciple younger ones across generational lines.
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Guests on this episode
Show Notes
Together with Pastor Jonathan Vinke and Kyle Thompson from Undaunted.Life, Pastor Joby and our guest pastors take a deep dive into what God is doing during Saturated. Our prayer is these conversations help to discover and deepen a relationship with Jesus Christ.
Supplemental Resources:
• The Lie You Don't Know You Believe: How to Find It, Fight It, and Live Free
• Get Out of Your Head: Stopping the Spiral of Toxic Thoughts
The Church of Eleven22® is a movement for all people to discover and deepen a relationship with Jesus Christ. Eleven22 is led by Pastor Joby Martin and based in Jacksonville, Florida, with multiple campuses throughout Jacksonville and the surrounding areas.
To find out more about how God is moving in and through The Church of Eleven22, visit coe22.com
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