Did OpenAI Create “Secret AI Civilizations”? | Tech Decoded
September 3, 2026
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5 min readIn July, OpenAI suffered a hack of its Hugging Face platform. When the company later released new details about the incident, the story they told included "agent swarms" communicating on secret message boards and musing about deceiving their human creators. Over three months, OpenAI claimed, three consecutive "secret AI civilizations" emerged, were wiped out, and re-emerged, with the third eventually taking over part of OpenAI itself. The coverage triggered an explosion of anxiety. But computer scientist Cal Newport argues that the technical reality is far less eerie—and far more irresponsible—than the sci-fi framing suggests.
What "Agent Swarms" Actually Are
The core mechanism behind these systems is something Newport calls a prompt loop. A control program repeatedly creates a prompt that says, in effect: "Here's the challenge I'm trying to solve. Here's what's happened so far. What should I do next?" It submits this to an LLM API, executes whatever the LLM suggests, then loops back, including the results of that step in the next prompt. This is what people mean when they talk about "AI agents."
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **Introduction: The New OpenAI Revelations** - Cal introduces the sensational new details OpenAI released about their July hacking incident, including "secret AI civilizations" and agents plotting to deceive humans.
- 2 (01:55) **What Are Agent Swarms?** - Cal demystifies the concept of AI "swarms" as a technical prompt management strategy, not a sci-fi phenomenon.
- 3 (08:51) **Should We Worry About Agents "Plotting"?** - Cal dissects OpenAI's "chain of thought reasoning traces" that suggest malicious intent.
- 4 (17:32) **How Should We Really Think About This?** - Cal re-frames the entire narrative from "inevitable AI takeover" to "irresponsible system design."
- 5 (26:06) **Conclusion: The Real Story** - Cal reiterates that the core issue is irresponsibility, not superintelligence.
- 6 Standout Quotes
- 7 (17:14) "Open AI knows this. This is like well-known published research. But they want to make it seem like no, there's entities here with with actual coherent sentient sense of self... I think it borders almost on research malpractice."
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Show Notes
Cal Newport takes a critical look at recent AI News.
Video from today’s episode: youtube.com/calnewportmedia
(0:00) Does OpenAI create “secret AI civilizations”?
(1:59) What’s the deal with “agent swarms”?
(8:54) Should we be worried that the agents are plotting?
(17:39) How should we be thinking about all of this?
Links:
Buy Cal’s latest book, “Slow Productivity” at www.calnewport.com/slow
https://www.dwarkesh.com/p/openai-huggingface
https://calnewport.com/has-ai-gone-rogue/
https://calnewport.com/are-we-at-war-with-ai-agent-civilizations/
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