David Senra
David Senra

Patrick O'Shaughnessy, Colossus & Positive Sum

December 21, 2025

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šŸŽ™ļø The Voices & The Context

  • The Format: This is a candid, meandering host-to-host conversation between two podcast luminaries dissecting life philosophies, blending raw vulnerability with intellectual sparring in a deeply introspective and brotherly tone.
  • The Key Players:
    • David Senra: Host of Founders Podcast, obsessive biographer of entrepreneurs, driven by ruthless curiosity about human potential; rose from obscurity after Patrick's viral tweet endorsement.
    • Patrick O'Shaughnessy: Host of Invest Like the Best, investor at Positive Sum Ventures, wired for spotting undiscovered talent and championing it across media, teams, and investments; their decade-long friendship fuels the banter.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 Investor at Positive Sum Ventures, host of *Invest Like the Best* podcast, champion of emerging talent through media and investments.
  • 2 Patrick's wiring: Thrives on discovering unknowns before others, learning at the frontier.
  • 3 Joy in betting on potential early, fostering wins for others (kids, wife, founders, podcast guests).
  • 4 Prefers picking sides, architecting life around this pursuit.
  • 5 David screenshots old text calling Patrick "positive sum," not money-driven.
  • 6 Recounts Patrick's tweet promoting *Founders Podcast* despite zero followers, leading to subscriber surge.
  • 7 Ties to theme: Betting on talent before deserved.

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Show Notes

Patrick O'Shaughnessy is the Chairman Emeritus of O'Shaughnessy Asset Management, the founder of Colossus, and the founder and CEO of Positive Sum. He is an investor, author, and podcaster who has devoted his career to understanding the world's best investors and entrepreneurs.

Under his leadership, Colossus has become one of the largest investing-focused podcast networks in the world, producing shows including the flagship Invest Like the Best, which he hosts. At Positive Sum, he invests in early-stage companies creating and reinventing categories, with portfolio companies including Tegus, ID.me, Etched, and Vanta.

After starting as an intern at his father's quantitative asset management firm in 2008, O'Shaughnessy became CEO in 2018. He became known for his deep research into factor-based investing, his quantitative approach to stock selection, and his ability to communicate complex investment ideas to a broad audience.

His accomplishments include growing OSAM into a leading custom indexing platform before its acquisition by Franklin Templeton in 2021, launching Invest Like the Best in 2016 which was named among The Wall Street Journal's "5 Investment Podcasts You Should Listen To," founding Colossus in 2020 to build a media platform around his vision of learning in public, and authoring ā€œMillennial Money: How Young Investors Can Build a Fortune in 2014.ā€

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Chapters

(00:00:00) The Joy of Championing Undiscovered Talent

(00:02:21) How One Tweet Changed David’s Life

(00:05:07) The Upanishads Passage That Shaped Patrick’s Worldview

(00:08:34) Growth Without Goals Philosophy

(00:10:40) Why Media and Investing Are the Same Thing

(00:28:41) The Search for True Understanding Through Biography

(00:31:04) The Daniel Ek Dinner That Launched This Podcast

(00:34:28) Making Your Own Recipe From the Ingredients of Great Lives

(00:39:11) The Privilege of a Lifetime Is Being Who You Are

(00:48:25) Bruce Springsteen’s Battle With Depression and Self-Worth

(00:53:21) Clean Fuel vs Dirty Fuel: The Source of Your Ambition

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