Was Charlie Kirk Killed With a Drone? Viva Frei and Jimmy Dore on DarkHorse

August 23, 2026

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Three days after Charlie Kirk was shot dead at a campus event in Utah, the courtyard where he fell was excavated ten inches deep and paved over with concrete pavers. A contractor who performed the work said he was told the order came from the governor and the FBI, and that it needed to be done by Monday. The same week, the SUV Kirk was loaded into after being shot was scrubbed and sold. His shirt was disposed of. His phone was returned to his wife. The microphone he was wearing—which contained a high-resolution audio recording that could settle the central question of what killed him—has never been accounted for. These are not disputed facts. The question is what they mean.

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1 (00:04) **Opening & Setup** - Host Brett introduces guests Viva Frei and Jimmy Dore for a conversation about the Charlie Kirk assassination, noting the three participants hold different positions on what happened.
2 (05:41) **Viva Frei's Position: Bullet from the Roof** - Viva states his belief that Charlie Kirk was killed by a bullet fired from the Low C building roof, and that Tyler Robinson was likely involved.
3 (08:45) **Jimmy Dore's Position: Overwhelming Cover-Up** - Jimmy says he doesn't know who killed Kirk, but sees undeniable evidence of a cover-up by authorities and TPUSA.
4 (16:42) **The "Evil" Accusation Debate** - Viva pushes back, arguing that the term "evil" is reserved for those who make baseless accusations against Kirk's widow and team, not for those simply questioning the narrative.
5 (22:48) **Brett's Scientific Framework** - Brett explains his approach as a biologist: treating the assassination as a complex system where anomalies must be weighed and competing hypotheses tested.
6 (26:51) **George Zinn: Anomaly or Distraction?** - Brett says George Zinn's behavior is strange, but his investigation has made Zinn seem less interesting and less likely to be part of a larger plot.
7 (30:45) **The Paving of the Crime Scene** - Jimmy presents evidence that the governor and FBI ordered the crime scene dug up and paved over within four days, calling it an obvious cover-up.

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Guests on this episode

Bret Weinstein

Show Notes

Bret Weinstein speaks with Viva Frei and Jimmy Dore on the subject of the Charlie Kirk assassination discussing the paved-over crime scene, the missing microphone, the ballistics, drones, and what a functioning investigation would have looked for.

Find Viva Frei on X at https://x.com/thevivafrei and at https://vivafrei.com
Find Jimmy Dore on X at https://x.com/jimmy_dore and at https://jimmydore.com

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Music: "Marble Machine" by Wintergatan
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Mentioned on this episode:

Drone evidence mentioned by Bret: https://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/2090282476623286463

Judicial Watch UVU Cleanup Records https://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-university-releases-documents-on-clean-up-of-charlie-kirk-assassination-site/

Jimmy Dore's Interview with Joe Kent https://youtu.be/9EqB1OLESEw?si=N9gdgjSf9USzhKS7

Chris Martenson https://x.com/chrismartenson

John Cullen https://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen

Brian Harpole on Shawn Ryan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpVrZbiEyi4

Frank Turke mentions drone footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVaxvKtw5NQ&t=2576s

Rode Wireless Pro https://rode.com/en-us/user-guides/wireless-pro/on-board-recording-and-32-bit-float

Charlie Kirk on PBD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ9VOlaBBeo

Chuck Schumer on intelligence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3p2zKPQSgI

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