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Programming the Body to Fight Cancer

July 15, 2026

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“It's like thinking of a living drug that's a computer.” That’s how biomedical engineer Dr. Shreya Shukla describes CAR T-cell therapy on this episode of Curiosity Weekly. Instead of trying to kill cancer cells directly with chemicals or radiation, this approach takes a patient’s own immune cells, re-programs them in a lab, and infuses them back to hunt down malignancies. The episode also covers the sudden explosion of unregulated peptide supplements flooding social media, and a surprising discovery about how pigeons navigate on cloudy days using immune cells in their liver.

The Logic of CAR T-Cell Therapy

The immune system already patrols for cancer, but tumors evolve ways to hide. CAR T-cell therapy gives immune cells an upgrade. T cells — described by Shukla as “soldiers of the body” that can lie dormant in lymph nodes for decades before recognizing an old threat — are harvested from a patient’s blood. In a clean lab environment, scientists engineer them to express a synthetic receptor called a CAR (chimeric antigen receptor) that recognizes a specific protein on the surface of cancer cells. The engineered cells are multiplied, frozen, and shipped back to the hospital, where they are thawed and infused into the patient. The result is a living drug: billions of programmable cells that seek and destroy.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (02:11) **Why Cancer Cells Outsmart the Immune System** - Introduces the core problem: the immune system can attack cancer, but cancer cells evade it, setting the stage for CAR T-cell therapy.
  • 2 (03:12) **The Peptide Panic: Hype vs. Science** - Examines the explosion of online interest in unregulated peptides and why experts warn against self-injection.
  • 3 (08:53) **What Is CAR T-Cell Therapy?** - Dr. Shreya Shukla defines CAR T-cells as engineered T-cells programmed to recognize and kill cancer cells.
  • 4 (11:12) **Liquid vs. Solid Tumors: The Targeting Challenge** - Explains why CAR T therapy works best on blood cancers and why solid tumors are a tougher target.
  • 5 (15:50) **Why T-Cells Are the Perfect Soldiers** - Dr. Shukla describes the natural abilities of T-cells that make them ideal for engineering.
  • 6 (17:38) **Why Engineering Is Necessary** - Explains that even potent T-cells need a "nudge" to attack cancer, sometimes at the cost of healthy cells.
  • 7 (19:02) **The CAR T-Cell Therapy Process** - Walks through the step-by-step procedure from blood draw to infusion.

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Show Notes

There is some recent research that’s testing out cancer treatments that can utilize the power of our immune systems to attack cancer cells. It’s called CAR T-cell therapy and it involves programming immune cells to target and attack cancer in the body. Here to explain more is Dr. Shreya Shukla, a biomedical engineer specializing in this treatment. But first, host Dr. Samantha Yammine will separate hype from fact when it comes to one of the internet’s most recent fixations: peptides. Later, Sam digs into a study trying to figure out how pigeons find their way home on a cloudy day. 

 

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