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Lying Never Holds Up | Negligent Discharge Friday | 10.2.2026

October 2, 2026

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Lying Never Holds Up

The episode opens with Andy Stumpf addressing criticism of his recent three-part series on Roberts Ridge and the John Chapman Medal of Honor controversy. He acknowledges a valid point raised by listeners: he should have asked Mitch whether he believed Leroy Petry deserved the Medal of Honor as well. "I'm not perfect," Stumpf says flatly. "I've never sat down and had a perfect conversation with somebody." He also wishes he had pressed harder on why members of Mako 30 originally supported the narrative summary and Navy Cross award for John Chapman, only to later change their stories. "Why are you going back on what you said before?" That question, he argues, is the central hurdle that needs to be addressed directly.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:01) **Cold Open & Roberts Ridge Aftermath** - The hosts recap listener feedback and their own regrets from the previous three-part series on Roberts Ridge.
  • 2 (08:51) **Ad Break: Helix Mattress** - Andy delivers a brief ad read for Helix mattresses.
  • 3 (10:27) **Medal of Honor Debate & Upcoming Episode** - The hosts discuss the specific acts of valor on the mountain and what constitutes a Medal of Honor.
  • 4 (14:06) **AI Near-Miss with China** - Michael introduces a story about an AI chatbot hallucination that nearly caused a military confrontation with a Chinese naval vessel.
  • 5 (18:50) **The AI Art Debate** - Andy and Michael engage in a heated, playful debate about whether AI-generated images can be considered "real art."
  • 6 (28:01) **Ad Break: Progressive Insurance** - A brief ad read for Progressive's "Name Your Price" tool.
  • 7 (29:48) **White House Media Ban & Press Censorship** - The hosts discuss a federal judge blocking Trump's ban on several news outlets, and the history of press suppression under Lincoln.

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Guests on this episode

Andy Stumpf

Show Notes

A last-minute Friday episode, because I forgot we didn't have one. Michael worked under pressure.

We open with the Roberts Ridge series. The criticism online was valid: I should have asked Mitch and Brian whether they believe John Chapman earned the Medal of Honor, and I should have pushed on why the members of MAKO 30 supported the Navy Cross narrative and then would not sign statements for the Medal of Honor. That gap has to be addressed directly. I also explain where I actually land on the medal, why Pat Tillman is the example of what happens when you lie to protect a legacy, and why I am not a protector of the SEAL brand. The other side of the table is coming on in mid-October.

From there, a report that an AI chatbot hallucinated nuclear components on a Chinese cargo ship and had aircraft scrambled before someone caught it. Michael and I argue about whether AI art is art. A judge blocks the White House from pulling press credentials, and I explain why censorship never works and what I would do as press secretary. Lincoln shut down hundreds of newspapers during the Civil War. The last U.S. troops leave Iraq, and we talk contractors, Title 10 versus Title 50, and why Afghanistan still stings. A pilot stabbed his co-pilot on a flight to Tel Aviv and the plane dropped 14,000 feet before passengers got into the cockpit.


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