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5 min readGeorge Hirschman, CEO of Solve Energy, one of the largest solar and storage EPC firms in the U.S., describes a market transformed by genuine load growth rather than the boom-and-bust cycles typical of commercial construction. Unlike the replacement-driven energy market of the past, today’s demand is being driven by data centers, electrification, and industrial expansion, and the fastest, cheapest way to meet it is solar and storage. But the real story is not just about demand—it is about how a company that builds projects measured in square miles thinks about scaling, labor, logistics, and technology.
The leverage of scale and the reality of labor
Hirschman pushes back on the idea that labor is the binding constraint. On a typical solar project, 85 to 90 percent of the work is mechanical—putting posts in the ground, bolting racking, installing modules. Only 10 to 15 percent requires highly skilled electricians for terminations and splicing. That means most of the workforce can be trained locally. The real leverage comes from project size itself. A team that once managed a 20-megawatt project can now manage a 300-megawatt project with only modest additions to management. “The megawatts are growing, but the people that are managing them are not growing,” Hirschman says. This operational leverage means revenue can scale faster than headcount.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (02:43) **State of the Market & Growth** - George Hirschman describes the current boom for solar and storage EPCs.
- 2 (04:16) **Cyclicality vs. Consistent Growth** - Hirschman contrasts the renewables market with traditional construction cycles.
- 3 (07:20) **The "Tetris" of Project Management** - How Solve manages the lumpy, large-scale nature of EPC projects.
- 4 (11:06) **The Labor Shortage: Less Constraining Than You Think** - Hirschman explains why the labor pool is not the primary bottleneck for solar construction.
- 5 (14:04) **The Killer App for Automation is Speed** - The primary driver for adopting robotics and automation on site.
- 6 (17:08) **The Real Rate Limiter: Logistics, Not People** - The hardest thing to scale up is the movement of materials and equipment.
- 7 (23:53) **Supply Chain Chaos and Strategic Procurement** - How supply chain disruption has shaped Solve's approach to planning.
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Show Notes
As the utility-scale solar market collides with an era defined by massive load growth, EPC (engineering, procurement, and construction) firms are rethinking their strategy to meet the moment.
In this episode, Shayle speaks to George Hershman, CEO of SOLV Energy, one of the largest solar and storage construction firms in the US. George offers a unique perspective into the state of the market as well as the logistics of building gigawatt-scale projects and insights into how automation is changing the EPC game.
Shayle and George discuss:
- Why George believes rising demand can help solar move past boom-and-bust cycles
- How SOLV is taking on larger projects without needing to increase its workforce proportionally
- How automation helps SOLV build and install utility-scale solar faster
- The logistics bottleneck impacting EPCs’ ability to scale
- How AI-driven simulations can help optimize installations
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Credits: Hosted by Shayle Kann. Produced and edited by Max Savage Levenson. Original music and engineering by Sean Marquand. Stephen Lacey is our executive editor.
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