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Filling Our Cups w/ Lizzy McAlpine

July 30, 2026

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Lizzy McAlpine’s fourth album, Angel, comes out September 18th, and she announced the date by doing the math on a Snapchat filter that told her Connor’s birthday. “I calculated this because I did the Snapchat filter that said your birthday’s in… and I’m way too old to be playing with Snapchat filters in bed this morning,” she said. The album drops a week after Connor’s birthday and three days before Brooke’s, which means the three of them now have a shared calendar anchor. But the conversation that followed—about anxiety, stage fright, Broadway, songwriting, and the mechanics of making art under pressure—was less about release dates and more about what it takes to keep making things when your body and brain keep getting in the way.

Stage fright, beta blockers, and the body as an unreliable instrument

McAlpine has never not had stage fright. “Every time I’ve literally never not gotten stage right,” she said. “It doesn’t matter who’s there. It doesn’t matter what size the audience is. It doesn’t matter what I’m doing. It doesn’t even matter if it’s my own show or not. If I’m just coming to sing one song, I’m nervous.” Her heart races, her voice gets shaky and weak, and the adrenaline changes the sound she’s trying to produce. Usually she can move through it by the third song, but she’d rather start the set feeling good too.

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  • 1 Filling Our Cups w/ Lizzy McAlpine
  • 2 (01:09) **Welcome and Guest Introduction** - Brooke and Connor introduce Lizzy McAlpine as a rare guest, noting their excitement
  • 3 (02:14) **Unexpected Connections** - The group discovers they share a surprising number of biographical similarities
  • 4 (04:49) **Album Release Timeline** - Lizzie reveals her upcoming album drops in fifty days, tied to a Virgo birthday connection
  • 5 (06:42) **Broadway and Musical Theater** - Both Brooke and Lizzie bond over their love of Broadway, specifically *Next to Normal*
  • 6 (08:14) **Anxiety, Writing, and Performance** - The group explores how anxiety manifests in their creative work and live performances
  • 7 (13:30) **Stage Fright and Beta Blockers** - Lizzie opens up about experiencing stage fright before every single performance

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Lizzy McAlpine

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Lizzy’s new album ‘Angel' is out September 18th. Pre-order and pre-save here: https://lizzymcalpine.lnk.to/angel Phoebe Berman’s Gonna Lose It out NOW: https://sites.prh.com/phoebe-bermans-gonna-lose-it SUBSCRIBE TO THE BNC CHANNEL: https://bit.ly/45Pspyl Ad Free & Bonus Episodes: https://bit.ly/3OZxwpr This week, Brooke and Connor welcome the one and only Lizzy McAlpine! Lizzy talks about her process writing songs, making her big Broadway debut, and dealing with anxiety while performing on stage. Plus, they plan out a group Prenuvo session! Join our Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/5356639204457124/ Popchips is sending you and your +1 to experience pop culture IRL at THAT Austin music fest!Go to https://popchips.com/brookeandconnor and enter for a chance to win a 3-day VIP trip for 2 to THAT Austin Music Fest. If you're between 18 and 24, check out Prime for Young Adults and start earning cash back on the purchases you're already making. Prime for Young Adults is only available for 18–24-year-olds. Terms apply. Join for free at https://rakuten.com or download the Rakuten app to start saving money todayMake your summer wardrobe feel easier. Go to https://Quince.com/bandc for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada, too. B+C IG: https://www.instagram.com/bncmap/ B+C Twitter: https://twitter.com/bncmap TMG Studios YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/tinymeatgang TMG Studios IG: https://www.instagram.com/realtmgstudios/ TMG Studios Twitter: https://twitter.com/realtmgstudios BROOKE https://www.instagram.com/brookeaverick https://twitter.com/ladyefron https://www.tiktok.com/@ladyefron CONNOR https://www.instagram.com/fibula/ https://twitter.com/fibulaa https://www.tiktok.com/@fibulaa Hosted by Brooke Averick & Connor Wood, Created by TMG Studios, Brooke Averick & Connor Wood, and Produced by TMG Studios, Brooke Averick & Connor Wood. Chapters: 0:00 Snack Time!! 0:53 Intro 1:09 Cups Are Flowing With Lizzy!!! 2:20 Girls From The Main Line 5:10 Lizzy’s New Album 6:34 Broadway Girls 8:23 Lizzy’s Writing Process 9:20 Hunger Games Loopholes 12:34 Working Through Anxiety 18:21 Prime For Young Adults 19:50 Rakuten 20:41 Releasing Medical Records 25:50 Light In The Painting Analysis 32:25 Testing Connor’s Broadway Knowledge 36:51 Quince 38:27 Drunk Texting Lizzy 43:00 Responding To Birthday Texts 45:27 How Lizzy Picks Her Track Lists 49:17 Getting Album Inspiration 56:20 Voice Training 1:03:56 Empath IBS on Broadway 1:09:53 Pre-Save Angel & Thank You Lizzy! 1:11:06 See You In Bonus!!!

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