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Filling Our Cups w/ Lizzy McAlpine

July 31, 2026

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Filling Our Cups w/ Lizzy McAlpine

Lizzy McAlpine's fourth album Angel comes out September 18th, and she wrote so many songs for it that recording had to happen in two separate phases—before and after a five-month Broadway run that she took specifically because making music had stopped feeling joyful. "I was burnt out from making music," she says. "I there was no joy in it for me anymore. I was like I need to fill other cups so that when I come back to making music it's fun again."

The Album's Architecture and a Family Tradition

The album has fourteen tracks, and that number is deliberate. McAlpine's first album had thirteen songs, and the thirteenth track was about her father, who passed away in 2020. The album came out on the 13th, he died on the 13th, and the thirteenth song was about him. "It felt very cosmic," she says. "After that, I was like, okay, every thirteenth song now and every one of my albums will be about my dad." But ending on the thirteenth track is "pretty much a downer every time," so fourteen became her sweet spot.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 Filling Our Cups w/ Lizzy McAlpine
  • 2 (01:09) **Welcome & Guest Introduction** - Brooke and Connor introduce Lizzy McAlpine as a very special guest
  • 3 (02:14) **Unexpected Connections** - Lizzy reveals she and Brooke share a surprising amount in common
  • 4 (05:09) **New Album Timeline & Virgo Connection** - Lizzy's upcoming album releases in 50 days, one week after Connor's birthday
  • 5 (06:38) **Broadway Love & "Next to Normal"** - Both hosts and guest bond over shared love of musical theater
  • 6 (08:22) **Anxiety, Writing, and Stage Fright** - The trio discusses how anxiety manifests in their creative work
  • 7 (13:35) **Beta Blockers & Performance Anxiety** - Lizzy and Brooke discuss the possibility of using beta blockers for nerves

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Show Notes

Lizzy’s new album ‘Angel' is out September 18th. Pre-order and pre-save here: https://lizzymcalpine.lnk.to/angel 

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Chapters:

0:00 Snack Time!!

0:53 Intro

1:09 Cups Are Flowing With Lizzy!!!

2:20 Girls From The Main Line

5:10 Lizzy’s New Album

6:34 Broadway Girls

8:23 Lizzy’s Writing Process

9:20 Hunger Games Loopholes

12:34 Working Through Anxiety

18:21 Prime For Young Adults

19:50 Rakuten 

20:41 Releasing Medical Records 

25:50 Light In The Painting Analysis

32:25 Testing Connor’s Broadway Knowledge

36:51 Quince

38:27 Drunk Texting Lizzy

43:00 Responding To Birthday Texts

45:27 How Lizzy Picks Her Track Lists

49:17 Getting Album Inspira

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