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9/9/26: Wild Socialist Conference Goes Off The Rails, New Doc Exposes Caribbean Boat Strikes

September 9, 2026

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In a segment that the hosts themselves acknowledge risks "nut picking"—the journalistic habit of spotlighting fringe figures to discredit an entire movement—Ryan Grim walks Krystal and Saagar through the Socialism 2026 conference, a gathering that produced viral clips of speakers arguing that "fitness is a measure of relative disposability under capitalism" and that the political deployment of GLP-1 weight-loss drugs is "fascistic." The clips are genuinely bizarre, and the hosts want to know: Is this a serious political movement, or a sideshow?

The Conference and Its Roots

The conference was originally sponsored by the International Socialist Organization (ISO), a Trotskyist group that folded in 2019. Haymarket Books, a left-wing publisher that emerged from the same milieu, has since taken over the convention. Many of the same figures remain involved. Grim describes the ISO as "cult-ish"—not quite a cult, but close. The conference draws funding and participants from the nonprofit industrial complex, philanthropies, and universities. This is not a mass movement of workers; it is a conference backed by institutional money.

The "Compatible Left" Thesis

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (02:20) **The "Nut Picking" Problem & The Socialism 2026 Conference** - Ryan Grim introduces the segment by acknowledging that viral clips from ideological conferences are often unrepresentative, but the Socialism 2026 conference is producing genuinely wild content that warrants examination.
  • 2 (04:05) **Clip 1: "Give Up the Fantasy of Being Fitter Than the Fascists"** - Beatrice Adler Bolton argues that fitness is a measure of disposability under capitalism and that the goal should be to reject disposability, not to become more useful to the ruling order.
  • 3 (05:31) **Clip 2: "The Political Deployment of GLP-1s is Fascistic"** - DeShawn Harrison argues that the conditions making GLP-1 drugs necessary are shaped by a world fixated on "genociding fat people," calling the structural deployment of these drugs fascistic.
  • 4 (07:26) **The Core Question: Why Is This Happening If Socialism is Popular?** - The hosts grapple with the disconnect between the conference's fringe rhetoric and socialism's electoral success, rejecting the "just ignore it" defense.
  • 5 (09:56) **The "Compatible Left": A Non-Profit Industrial Complex** - Ryan Grim describes the conference as representing a "compatible left" that sounds radical but is actually compatible with capitalism, funded by philanthropies and universities.
  • 6 (12:12) **The CIA, Ford Foundation, and the 80-Year Project** - Ryan Grim provides a historical analysis of how the CIA and foundations like Ford funded a "third camp" of leftist intellectuals to undermine global communism after WWII.
  • 7 (17:09) **Academic Incentives and the Fragmentation of the Left** - The segment explores how the academic incentive to identify new, obscure forms of oppression further divides people and undermines class solidarity.

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Guests on this episode

Ryan Grim Krystal Ball Saagar Enjeti

Show Notes

Ryan and Emily discuss Ryan responds to wild socialist conference, new documentary exposes Trump boat strikes in Caribbean.

 

Josh Rushing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y57CfGFCf3U

 

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