9/16/26: Frmr Pentagon Official, Houthis Shoot Down Jet
September 16, 2026
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5 min readIn early 2024, the House of Representatives passed Section 219 of the National Defense Authorization Act, a provision that would effectively merge the U.S. and Israeli military research, defense industrial bases, and technology sectors. Proponents argue this fusion benefits America by giving it access to Israeli military innovation—specifically citing programs like the Arrow missile defense system and a new laser technology called Iron Beam. But when former Pentagon official David Pine and journalist Ryan Grim looked closely at how those programs were actually developed and funded, they found a very different story.
Who Paid for Israel’s "Breakthrough" Weapons
David Pine served as international programs manager on the Army Headquarters staff, overseeing R&D arms cooperation with the Middle East. In that role, he was involved in signing a memorandum of understanding on the Arrow 2 missile defense program in Tel Aviv. What struck him as unusual, he told Breaking Points, was that the United States fully funded the program—through direct contributions and Foreign Military Financing, which is essentially U.S. taxpayer aid to Israel, then running about $3 billion a year. Yet the agreement barred the U.S. from using the full technology in its own missile defense systems.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (02:00) **House Passes Section 219 to Fuse U.S. and Israeli Militaries** - The hosts introduce the controversy over a new office that would merge the two nations' defense industries.
- 2 (04:29) **Former Pentagon Official David Pine Joins** - Pine introduces his role as international programs manager for Army R&D cooperation.
- 3 (06:56) **U.S. Barred from Using Its Own Funded Technology** - Pine explains the paradox of American funding without access.
- 4 (08:36) **Concerns Over Technology Transfers to China** - The hosts ask if the giveaway could benefit adversaries.
- 5 (10:52) **Congressional Pressure Overrides Intelligence Warnings** - The hosts dig into how Congress forces the DOD to hand over IP.
- 6 (12:54) **The "America First" Conflation** - The hosts challenge the idea that anyone sincerely believes this arrangement helps the U.S.
- 7 (14:52) **Willing to Testify Against Section 219** - Pine offers to speak to senators about his firsthand experience.
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Show Notes
On today's Wednesday show Ryan and Emily speak to Former Pentagon official David Pyne about the merging of the Israel U.S. militaries. After we look at Kash Patel's latest hearing on a myriad of topics and finally Ryan speaks to Yemeni journalist Hussain Al-Bukhaiti about the Houthis.
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