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5 min readIn October 2008, veteran Bigfoot researcher Carl Sump was camping in Arizona with his 12-year-old nephew when a series of knocks and whoops drew something up the canyon toward them. Through a monocular night vision scope, the nephew saw a face staring back at him. When Sump grabbed the scope, he caught a female Sasquatch taking a final step behind a tree, her left breast visible in profile. She then put her hand on the tree trunk and held it there for about three minutes — long enough for the two of them to pass the scope back and forth several times. The hand was at 69 inches up the trunk, leading Sump to estimate her height at between 7'4" and 7'7". He could see the hair on her forearm moving in the breeze, the shorter hair on her hand, and the cracked, rough fingernails. The fingers, he says, were the size of ballpark franks.
The 2008 Encounter That Changed Everything
Sump's serious interest in Bigfoot began in the fall of 2008, but the pivot point came earlier that year during a BFRO expedition led by Matt Moneymaker. On the first night, Moneymaker did a call from a ridge between two canyons. Within seconds, a return howl came from the north, then one from the northwest, then one from the southwest. Sump had a recorder running, and he still listens to that moment — the moment he knew he had to figure out what was going on.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (02:46) **Guest Introduction: Carl Sub** - Jeremiah introduces Carl, an 18-year Bigfoot investigator who now maintains the Bigfoot Encounters.com archive.
- 2 (10:46) **The Moment It Became Real** - Carl describes the 2008 BFRO expedition that turned him from skeptic to investigator.
- 3 (14:24) **First Close Encounter: The Canyon Whoop** - Carl recounts his first sighting with his 12-year-old nephew in an Arizona canyon.
- 4 (21:13) **Detailed Description of the Female Sasquatch** - Carl provides a minute-long observation of the creature's hand and profile at ~30 feet.
- 5 (29:00) **Closest Encounters: Daytime and 14 Inches Away** - Carl recounts his closest daytime sighting (120 feet) and his closest overall (12-14 inches).
- 6 (33:50) **What They Are: "They Are Like Us"** - Carl describes the creature's face as very human-like but broader, with larger eyes and a different nose.
- 7 (37:28) **The Moonlit Silhouette and a Footprint** - Carl describes a sighting of a Sasquatch silhouetted in moonlight, followed by a footprint that bisected his own tracks.
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Show Notes
In this episode, Karl shares the encounter that convinced him these beings are real, including a night in Arizona when a responsive whoop led to a visual observation of a towering female Sasquatch watching from the darkness. He also recounts waking up to find a massive face pressed against his vehicle window, discovering oversized handprints the following morning, and documenting activity throughout the Mogollon Rim region.
Karl discusses his work preserving the historic Bigfoot Encounters archive, his investigations on Long Island and in the Chicago forest preserves, strange incidents involving missing time during a BFRO expedition, and years of research into habitat patterns that continue producing results.
This conversation is packed with field observations, investigative insights, and firsthand experiences from one of the most active researchers in the Bigfoot community.
If you've ever wondered what thousands of hours in Sasquatch territory can teach a person, this is an episode you won't want to miss.
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