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Monologue: Anthropic Lost $8bn In 2025, Was A Worse Business Than OpenAI

September 30, 2026

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In 2025, Anthropic lost over $8 billion on $4.6 billion in revenue, spending $2.75 for every dollar it brought in. That made it a worse business than OpenAI, which spent $2.60 to make a dollar that same year—contradicting the widespread narrative that Anthropic was the leaner, more disciplined company that would reach profitability first. Host Ed Zitron walks through the numbers from Anthropic’s audited financials to explain why the conventional wisdom about which AI lab has better economics has been wrong, and why the company’s path forward looks bleak.

The numbers that broke the narrative

Anthropic’s 2025 operating expenses totaled $12.65 billion against $4.6 billion in revenue. Compute costs alone came to $7.33 billion. The company’s net loss was technically $42 billion, but that figure includes stock-related accounting from convertible notes—Zitron sets that aside as not a cash loss. What matters is the core operating picture: a company hemorrhaging cash on every dollar of sales.

For comparison, OpenAI spent $34 billion to make $13.07 billion in 2025, or $2.60 per dollar of revenue. Zitron notes that “so many people assured me that this is the company that worked it all out” when, in fact, “Dario Amodei’s horrid son was just as obese as Altman’s—a rotten, unprofitable pile of shit.” The gap is small, but the direction is telling: Anthropic was worse, not better.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 Timestamped Outline
  • 2 (00:02) **Episode Opening & Housekeeping** - Host Ed Zitron explains he nearly took a week off but decided to deliver a shorter episode instead
  • 3 (02:22) **Anthropic's 2025 Financials: The Core Numbers** - Zitron reveals that Anthropic lost over $8 billion in 2025 on $4.6 billion in revenue
  • 4 (03:05) **2026 Numbers Remain Hidden** - Reuters did not report Anthropic's 2026 financials, and there are signs the situation has worsened
  • 5 (03:17) **Operating Expense Breakdown** - Anthropic spent $12.65 billion in operating expenses to generate $4.6 billion in revenue
  • 6 (03:43) **The Myth of Anthropic as the Better Business** - Zitron dismantles the common narrative that Anthropic was more profitable or better run than OpenAI
  • 7 (04:14) **Skepticism Toward 2026 Optimism** - Boosters are already claiming 2026 will be better, but Zitron has "less than zero interest" in unaudited numbers

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Show Notes

In this week's Better Offline, Ed Zitron walks through Anthropic’s 2025 financials, covering how it spent $2.75 to make a dollar, and how it was, at least last year, a worse business than OpenAI.

Dead Money: https://www.wheresyoured.at/dead-money/
Anthropic story from Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/anthropics-ipo-prospectus-shows-sweeping-ai-vision-surging-costs-2026-09-28/

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