Behind the Business with Michelle Toh
Behind the Business with Michelle Toh

Canva's 'biggest shift': AI, design and the future of work

August 27, 2026

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Canva co-founder and chief product officer Cameron Adams spent two months sleeping in his car in San Francisco, trudging up and down Sandhill Road trying to raise money for a failed email startup called Fluent. That startup was costing him $100,000 a month of his own money. He had already turned down the idea for Canva once. But after the fundraising door slammed shut, the notion of democratizing design kept bouncing around in his head. He had been building creative tools for 15 years. So he got back on a Skype call with Melanie Perkins and Cliff Obrecht, who were in Hawaii, and they decided to band together in July 2012. A year later, Canva launched — and two days before that launch, Adams was hit by a taxi while cycling at 40 kilometers an hour, knocked unconscious, lost a tooth, got stitches, and was back coding the next morning.

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  • 1 (01:47) **Early career and the pivot to design** - Cameron describes his path from law and science degrees to founding his own web design business, driven by a passion that outweighed parental expectations.
  • 2 (04:40) **Lessons from Google Wave's failure** - Cameron reflects on the ambitious but short-lived project, identifying a key imbalance between building the right thing and getting it in front of the right audience.
  • 3 (07:28) **The near-miss with Fluent and the path to Canva** - Cameron details the failure of his email startup, Fluent, and how that dead end led directly to his connection with Canva's co-founders.
  • 4 (09:54) **The initial pass and the return** - Cameron reveals he initially turned down the Canva opportunity, a decision that was reversed only after the failure of his own startup.
  • 5 (12:30) **The launch day disaster** - Two days before Canva's launch, Cameron was hit by a car while cycling, but he still managed to ship the product on time.
  • 6 (15:15) **The growth mindset from day one** - Cameron explains that being based in Australia forced Canva to think globally from the very beginning, which became a core advantage.
  • 7 (20:37) **When investor pressure led astray** - Cameron recounts a costly detour where Canva spent six months building a social network based on investor feedback, a feature that was ultimately scrapped.

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Show Notes

Joining us this week is Cameron Adams, co-founder and Chief Product Officer of Canva — the company that has simplified online design and become one of the world’s fastest-growing tech platforms. What began in 2013 has grown into Australia’s most valuable private tech company, valued at as much as $40 billion and backed by investors including former Disney CEO Bob Iger. Canva has transformed how people create everything from presentations and social posts to party invitations — taking a once-gatekept industry and making design accessible to more than 265 million people each month. The company has crossed billions of dollars in annual revenue and is now doubling down on AI as it enters its next phase of growth. In this conversation, we dive into: 00:00: Introduction 01:30: From law school to design and entrepreneurship 07:28: Cameron’s early entrepreneurial instincts 03:10: Choosing passion over a traditional career path 04:17: What Google Wave taught Cameron about product development 07:00: Story of building Fluent and its failure 08:52: The connections that brought Canva’s co-founders together 09:46: Why Cameron initially turned down the opportunity to join Canva 12:17: Cameron’s accident hours before Canva’s launch 14:51: How Canva scaled to more than 265 million monthly users 16:52: How Canva built a truly localized global product 18:12: Ad 20:11: When should founders trust their intuition over user and investor feedback? 22:34: Why Canva scrapped its social networking features 23:04: How luck and timing shaped Canva’s success 24:18: Fundraising lessons for startup founders 26:37: How Cameron went from a shy kid to a confident public speaker 27:51: Canva’s strategy for competing with Adobe and Microsoft 29:14: How Canva built and maintains its global user community 31:27: The company’s biggest product shift with Canva AI 2.0 34:50: The challenges of building Canva AI 2.0 36:22: Has AI-powered design overcome its early limitations? 37:36: AI Boom vs. early innings 39:26: Will AI replace entry-level creative roles? 41:17: Cameron Adams on Canva’s IPO plans 42:03: Cameron’s approach to philanthropy and the Giving Pledge 45:08: Cameron’s long-term vision for Canva 46:11: Audience question 47:33: Rapid-fire round Note: This episode was recorded in April 2026. Check out Cameron's own new podcast, Prompted: https://promptedpodcast.com/ This episode is brought to you by our show sponsors:

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