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5 min readBegin Again Moments: Co-Parenting
The most striking piece of advice in this conversation arrives early and lands like a quiet bomb: "Never marry a man you wouldn't want to be divorced from." The guest, a journalist and mother of three, explains that this isn't about planning for failure—it's about knowing who someone is at their core. How do they treat people they no longer need? How do they talk about their exes? That reveals how they will behave when you are no longer the person they are married to. Davina McCall, visibly struck, calls it "the most" piece of advice she has ever heard on the subject.
The Foundation: Choosing a Person You Can Stay Friends With
The conversation centers on two people who managed to remain close after divorce: the guest and her ex-husband of 22 years. They speak weekly, spend Christmas together, and buy each other birthday gifts. This did not happen by accident. It began with a choice made long before the marriage ended. The guest's first rule—"never marry a man you wouldn't want to be divorced from"—is not cynical. It is a test of character. If someone is kind, treats people with respect, and does not speak badly about their exes, those traits will likely survive a divorce. If they are petty or cruel when conflict arises, that will surface when the relationship ends.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (01:20) **The Origin Story: Two Mega-Careers and a Power Couple** - The guest describes the chaos of being a young, famous couple juggling massive careers, partying, and tabloid scrutiny.
- 2 (03:37) **The Triumph of Remaining Friends** - The core achievement: staying close friends and co-parents after the split.
- 3 (04:15) **The Trap of Coexisting and the Price of Acrimony** - Why staying together "for the kids" can be worse than divorcing well.
- 4 (06:49) **How They Met and the Identity Shift of Divorce** - The guest met her ex-husband at work (she was his boss). The divorce was amicable but still a "dislocating" identity shift.
- 5 (09:08) **Top Advice for an Amicable Divorce: Rule #1** - The first and most mind-blowing piece of advice: "Never marry a man you wouldn't want to be divorced from."
- 6 (10:22) **Top Advice: Rule #2 - It's Not About You** - The divorce is about the kids. Protect them from the conflict entirely.
- 7 (11:10) **Top Advice: Rule #3 - Pick Your Battles & Be Generous** - Don't bankrupt yourself over the guinea pig. Be generous with family items so the kids feel at home in both houses.
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Show Notes
In this heartfelt episode of Begin Again Moments, we bring together two powerful conversations about navigating separation with compassion, and putting children first.
Fatboy Slim reflects on his divorce from Zoe Ball and how, despite the challenges of ending their marriage, they found a way to become even better parents. He shares why letting go of resentment, protecting their children from conflict, and embracing a new kind of friendship became their greatest achievement.
Novelist Jojo Moyes then opens up about what she calls her "good divorce." She shares the lessons she learned about separating with kindness, why your children should never carry the weight of adult conflict, and the advice she believes everyone should hear before they get married.
Together, these moments offer a hopeful perspective on co-parenting, showing that while relationships may end, the commitment to raising happy, secure children never has to.
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